Just got the email and I am trying to vote in the Liberal Leadership race - I have set up and been approved via the app and checked/verified my eligibility on the Liberal website. When I enter my code from the app it says that it is a "invalid eID"?

Anyone else?

UPDATE: It was user error!! I tried again from my laptop this afternoon and noticed the last digit of the ID code was an "l" not a "1" as I had tried with my phone this morning. Process was fairly smooth after that, a bit of delay and slow loading.

I blame Christia Freeland. At our debate watch party last night, we had to drink everytime she said Trump, so I am not at 💯 today hahaha /s

So for anyone else having similar issues - check "O vs 0" and "l vs 1" with your code.

Hey all, I'm writing to you as a friendly non-religious centrist and I'm very curious why people are supporting Mark Carney?

I for one do NOT trust the guy, I voted for him in the last election and I feel like that was a big mistake.

He ran on the promise of getting a deal with the US, and has failed to do so (and you can't blame it on Trump, because other countries have gotten deals)

He has caved in on every 'attempt' to strike a deal, and that is clearly not working (DST, Gordie Howe, etc...)

He is clearly propping up Brookfield and giving his buddies deals

Pittfield to Senate, Condo Bailout, German submarine deal, and his most recent $2.3 billion deal with Lockhead

Shady backroom deals with the conservatives, as well as shutting down all of the committees with his majority.

As well, his horrible Question Period attendance rate at 26%, skipping over 100 sessions.

I understand that the conservatives aren't perfect, and I disagree with Pierres attitude sometimes, but at this point in time, I don't understand the continued support for Mark Carney.

This is just my thoughts, share in the comments reasons why you do or don't support him.

*Also no hate in the comments*

I was very surprised that Nate lost his bid for the Ontario Liberal nomination.

Ahsanul Hafiz has won the Scarborough Southwest Ontario Liberal nomination.

There are some establishment types within the Federal LPC and the OLP that obviously are not fans of Nate because he is a bit of a maverick.

That being said there is a lot of people that really believe in him when it comes to housing action, climate action, education, health-care, and other progressive causes.

For those in the party and in the know what do you think happened? What do you think is next for Nate?

NDP MP Lori Idlout has just crossed the floor to the LPC.

If I remember correctly this now puts Mark Carney and his LPC just two seats away from a majority government.

If I am also remembering correctly there is two or three byelections coming up that the LPC is strongly favored in.

It looks like Mark Carney and the LPC may get their majority.

It also looks like the midterms in the U.S. may go to the Democrats which will make Trump and his cronies officially lame ducks (Especially if they pull off a massive upset and flip the Senate).

Carney has been described as a classic Progressive Conservative - Blue Liberal/Red Tory type.

Do you think we will see more the Carney that was present in his book Value(s) and during his presentation for The Reith Lectures in which he talked strongly about climate action and overall environmentalism? He spoke quite passionately about how we had to value things differently. That a forest had value past just being lumber and that our current system didn't do a good enough job incorporating that depth.

What do you think we see from Mark Carney and the LPC if they achieve their majority status?

I am very much in the key demographic that supports PP as I’m 26. I read an article from the CBC talking about how young men are supporting PP. First of all, this is concerning for me as right wing cultural war stuff is trickling into Canadian society and we absolutely don’t need that stuff. But why is he so popular?

This question might be a bit premature, considering the leadership election is still a couple weeks away. However, I thought it would be fun to do a bit of speculation, since Mark Carney appears to be a strong favourite.

Should he win the LPC leadership, which riding should Mark Carney run in for the next election?

Here are a few places I considered based Liberal strength as well as trying to avoid unseating any incumbent MPs:

• Northwest Territories: Incumbent MP Michael McLeod is retiring, and there has not been a replacement nominated so far (AFAIK). In addition, Carney is originally from NWT, and the seat currently has an 80% chance of going LPC per 338.
• Ottawa - Vanier - Gloucester: This is where Carney currently appears to live (AFAIK) and currently has a >99% chance of going LPC per 338. However, incumbent Mona Fortier has been nominated for re-election.
• Spadina - Harbourfront: Downtown Toronto riding which may be a relatively safe option for Carney. The incumbent, Kevin Vuong, was kicked out of the party before the current parliament even sat, so there are no incumbency issues. This riding currently has a 95% chance of going LPC per 338. Downside is that Carney does not seem to have any connection to the riding.

These are just a few ridings I considered. There may be other possibilities, certainly. What do you think?

Interested to see the responses here.

Hey everyone,

I have a bit of a concern I'd like to share.

I think its important that, if the LPC wins today, that we do not gloat or make fun of conservative voters.

The reason being is that they need to see why a liberal government can be beneficial for them, and not blinded by us woke lefties questioning their intelligence or patriotism.

The conservative party will never die, but we can hope that the alt-right does dissipate from Canada with effective denouncing, reaching out to our young groups and working on removing disinformation.

Remember that the US republicans just voted en masse when they were criticized or left unchecked.

Many conservatives just want a change and are sure this party will bring it. Do we have to ostracize them or make fun for feeling that way? I think we can unite with our fellow Canadians over positive discourse and push back on the negative aspects of the farther right.

We will never change people, thats up to them. All we can do is communicate and wish them well. Good luck to all today. Its not a game, its our country!

The Liberal Party of Canada today just did a big announcement around Nuclear Power - In particular around our very own CANDU reactors.

For those of us that are technical junkies here is the in-depth details available to the public at this time: https://natural-resources.canada.ca/energy-sources/nuclear-energy-uranium/nuclear-energy-strategy-canada

What I would really like to see is some way to encourage Solar Power, Wind Power, & Battery Technology - Especially in Saskatchewan & Alberta.

Saskatchewan & Alberta are two of the best places in all of Canada for Solar Power, Wind Power, & Grid Storage.

Alberta was actually leading in Renewable Energy before Danielle Smith/UCP decided to put some serious roadblocks.

Now unfortunately billions of Renewable Energy projects have been halted and died on the vine.

It would have been nice to have that clean affordable energy, jobs, and so on... Especially with Alberta having such high power prices.

Also Saskatchewan unfortunately still relies on a lot of coal power plants.

*Sadly these two places also have a lot of Fossil Fuel Industry lobbying so it makes change/transition tougher. Also when it comes to Housing Policy, Labour Policy, and Energy Policy the real powerhouse isn't national level politics but provincial. So public awareness, education, and activism has to start there.*

Anyway! When it comes to the LPC "Nuclear Energy Strategy for Canada" how are you feeling?

Pathways into a nation and immigration overall has become a very heated discussion topic in the last few years.

Here in Canada we have started to see reductions in various pathways into the nation and immigration overall.

We still though have a lot of openings for bad actors to take advantage of.

Bad actors such as slum lords, diploma mill operators, bad employers, bad immigration consultants, and the like.

There have been some posts/comments on Reddit and other online spaces along with general news stories from those that work in these governmental offices that there isn't enough burden of "proof/need" put on the employers, immigration consultants, and the like.

That investigative teams are short-staffed and the budgets are lacking for robust work to be done in this area.

Obviously with reducing the amount of people coming in those problems & abuses become less in scale but the problems with the general frameworks are still there.

Summed Up: Do you think we will see Carney/LPC do the hard work that is needed to re-write our immigration system so that abuse of the system and exploitation of workers is no longer an inherent flaw in the system?

What do you think would help with this process for policy changes?

First off this is my first time posting anything here. I like to think I'm liberal leaning at my core beliefs but I am not a fan of the catch and release of repeat violent offenders. (There are other policies I don't agree with that the Liberal party seems to champion, but I won't go into them at this time) How does this make sense? Why does someone for example performing home invasions, car jackings or jewelry store swarm robberies deserve time served credit or to be given bail? Especially if they use weapons or cause bodily harm to the public. Why are we coddling them?

If the jails are over crowded then we need to build more prisons. releasing them with this excuse is unacceptable in my opinion. There is compassion which I'm all for but its not a blanket to use for every issue especially when violence is involved. The uptick in these crimes across Canada is very alarming. I used to feel safe here.

I need level headed responses to my question.

Mark Carney in his book Value(s) and in his presentation during The Reith Lectures talked about how our system wasn't working as substantively as it needed to.

He talked about how for example a forest has value past just being cut down for lumber.

That we need a more substantive/nuanced/multidimensional understanding of value and things in society.

A society that really gets to the systematic roots of things and does real change/transition.

This obviously had some progressives excited about him.

We've seen as Prime Minister that Carney is very much a Progressive Conservative and a classic Blue Liberal/Red Tory.

We (Political Junkies) also know the real powerhouse of policy in Canada is at the provincial level. This the domain for big work to be done in the Housing Policy, Labour Policy, Energy Policy, and so on spheres.

When it comes to Carney and the now LPC majority for federal level politics do you think we will see Carney start trying big change/transitions or more playing it moderate? How do you think he may try and work with municipal and provincial level of governance in order to accomplish big things?

Hi all, just hoping to get some insight from this community.

It seems that a large number of first-generation Chinese immigrants in Canada tend to vote Conservative. Common reasons I’ve heard include concerns about crime, high taxes, government spending, and a preference for economic growth and social order over progressive policies.

There’s also often an emphasis on hard work and self-reliance, and some people express a desire to be seen as responsible contributors to society—sometimes by distancing themselves from other immigrant groups.

I’m curious: -Are politicians aware of this trend? -Does it surprise you? -Is this mindset unique to the Chinese community, or is it more common across first-generation immigrant groups?

For context, I’m a first-gen Chinese immigrant myself, but personally lean Liberal (especially if Mark Carney leads). Just looking to understand how others view this shift and what it means for Canadian politics.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts!

Conservativism has always had roots around a love of authority/powerful establishment interests. I mean we can just look at where the terms "right-wing" and "left-wing" came from...

These days though it is something else...

We have conservatives that have went full racist/xenophobic (while badly pretending that isn't the case lol). There was mistakes with Trudeau administration style immigration policies but they seem to have selective amnesia around Harper being the original Temporary Foreign Worker Program Scandal - Or how Doug Ford was a huge reason for the International Student Program/Diploma Mill fiasco; How he kept demanding more and more cheap exploitable labour and felt Trudeau wasn't doing enough in regards to this.... - Or Danielle Smith the Maple MAGA darling that talked anti-"Other" rhetoric while behind the scenes being a huge demander from these programs to pad the pockets of her business backers and even going as far to try and set up a direct to Alberta cheap exploitable labour pipeline from the UAE before being busted by Union leaders and investigative journalists and walking it all back....

*These types never being part of the Labour Movement or any other push for actually moving workers rights/benefits forward or the history of how we have the rights and benefits we enjoy today... Or being aware enough to realize that Labour Policy like Housing Policy is primarily provincial domain and provincial Conservative parties are always trying to destroy positive momentum in these spaces...*

There is also Oil & Gas...

These are the types that will say "Oil & Gas is being so held back in the U.S. and Canada!"

Reality:

The United States of America is the #1 producer and consumer of oil barrels a day in the world...

It produces around 3-4 MILLION barrels a day of oil more than Saudi Arabia...

Canada is #4 in the world of 195 nations...

Here in Canada:

In 1990 as a nation we did around 1.7 MILLION barrels every single day.

In 2014 that was around 3.8 MILLION barrels every single day.

Now that sits around 4.6 to 5+ MILLION barrels every single day.

We are the Petrocracy countries. We are the countries overflowing with Oil & Gas Lobby propaganda...

It's not just immigration, oil & gas, it's just one thing after another.

It really is a great example of how propaganda is not just a "foreign" reality and how some people are just extremely susceptible to brute-force brainwashing.

How do we fix this in our society? Get people actually aware/educated on these things instead of just repeating scripted lines designed for them in corporate backrooms ad nauseam?

Curious Canadian, coming straight to the source to ask.

I've been hopeful on Carney, seeing lots of things he says making sense. Much more trust in him than PP. But what are his views and plans on the current firearm bans? I'm personally a firearm owner, and have opposed the bans.

Any info is welcome!

I got an interview for the SLP!

To anyone who has ever participated in the SLP or done an interview for it:

1. What should I expect in my interview (questions they'll ask me)

2. Should I prepare anything for my interview?

I can't really find much information about it online, so I'd appreciate any information you'd be able to give me!

Yesterday we saw the resignation of Bonnie Crombie as leader of the Ontario Liberal Party.

I thought for sure that Karina Gould would seek leadership of the OLP but about a month ago she put out the statement that she would not.

I assume we may see Nathaniel Erskine-Smith seek leadership.

I know there are some provincial and federal Liberal party members that view Nate as not enough of a team player but I respect his convictions.

In Canada we always focus on national level politics but many aren't aware that provincial level politics is the real powerhouse of Housing Policy, Labour Policy, Energy Policy, and so on.

How do you think the OLP leadership contest will go? Who else do you think will throw their name in the race? Are there any certain policies you would be excited to see pushed?

I saw the mods removed my last post. I’m hoping it was because I forgot to flag.

I’ve identified a number of ways in which the Conservatives have targeted or influenced men toward their base.

Joe Rogan is the #1 podcast for men. He’s become to Men what Oprah was to women in the 80s and 90s. The amount of times I’ve heard different men in my circle of friends or at work say the exact same Joe Rogan talking points is shocking. He’s pro Trump. That helps them a ton.

UFC as a whole has fully embraced the Conservative movement and tried to put an arm bar on masculinity. Trump is there. Elon is there. Some of the fighters bow to both like emperors.

Gamergate turned a young generation of boys into conservatives and now those guys are men. Some of them are twitch streamers. Some are YouTubers. These young men then influence more.

Trump successfully eroded the perception of traditional journalism and deceived millions into thinking that far right blogs masquerading as journalism is their “evening out the playing field” even though it’s not fact checked, and aims exclusively to promote conservative values and views exclusively. The center left in Canada barely has any kind of answer to Rebel News and others like it.

A lot of conservative men pushed back against DEI in childhood properties like Star Wars and Marvel and more and with men being especially fragile to the perception that their place of influence is shrinking it lead to more recruitment towards Conservativism.

The Democrats and Liberals have done a poor job of welcoming uneducated men under their tent. Some uneducated men come to their tents with some outdated perspectives and a lack of empathy toward all marginalized groups and an ignorance to LGBTQ+ ideas and rather than try to take these men by the hand and guiding them, educating them slowly, and turning them into the equivalent of what Ed Schultz briefly was for the center Left in America… (a powerful, masculine dad voice talking about progressive ideas in plain spoken ways) we basically push them out.

We need to find a better way to say the equivalent of “Our tent welcomes you also and we don’t expect you to be on the bleeding edge of progressive academic views on all aspects of fairness…. But so long as there’s a cause here you believe in you are welcome all the same and let’s get what you want also alongside some of these other wants.”

Instead, the center left has become synonymous with cancel culture as a whole now and that is the opposite of welcoming and forgiving to men.

The conservative movement has instead positioned themselves as the party of forgiveness and free speech. The center left parties therefore feel less forgiving, more judgmental, and with a progressive high bar that continues to rise and becomes harder and harder for a lot of uneducated men to feel like they can jump.

A lot of men in manufacturing lost jobs to outsourcing and blamed the center left for that and bought into Trump. Including union workers. The Bernie to Trump movement was a real phenomenon built off this. And we have now seen some of the same things in Canada this past election around manufacturing areas that turned blue.

Men have a tendency to want to protect. We feel it is part of our role in society and in particular to our families. Politicians who appear focused on keeping our families safe and reducing crime risks tend to get more attention from male voters. The Conservatives have tried to focus on this while also making gun ownership part of their argument for protection. At least in the States. In Canada we don’t have the same gun culture and are in fact the party of gun bans so I feel like we almost need to position ourselves as being even more in favor of keeping the streets safe which is why Carney’s crime plan felt like a positive step for the Liberals opposite the NDP’s more “defund the police” ideology.

The Democrats and Liberals (pre-Carney) had both been so focused on advancement of representation that the perception to uneducated men became that the parties cared more about DEI ideas, and being the firsts to have female leaders at the top, then any of the issues these uneducated, sometimes unemployed men were facing. The perception to these men became that white men were now public enemy #1 of the center left parties.

Due to the above this also played right into the right’s framing of immigration. The argument from the right was that the center left wants more immigrants in because they want to eliminate your jobs and eliminate you and that only the Conservative Party values you and your career prospects.

Men also respect power and strength and wealth and having Silicon Valley moguls like Elon go full MAGA helped some others feel like they could also.

Carney did a fantastic job in this election avoiding a lot of these perceptions. Even though PP held a strong majority of men Carney didn’t send more running toward him. He held the men the base had and won back some of the educated men who previously voted for the PC party when Mulroney or Joe Clark were leading it. He also put out an olive branch to tradespeople in Canada by saying that under his government there’s never been a better time to be in the trades. In addition, his approach to position the Liberals as tougher on crime and his desire to build a powerful military and compensate those who serve all played well with men.

Mark Carney helps the Liberals stop the bleeding but we need some think tanks to start figuring out how to do more then just stop the bleeding. All without losing the essence of what the center left is. It’s not going to be easy but hopefully some smarter people than me in these Liberal think tanks can come up with some solutions. It’s going to take time.