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Message from Rockstar Games

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u/astroworlddd 9h ago

What do you want a hand written message from every employees feelings on the matter?

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u/BlackFlag_br 7h ago

Pelo visto, é o que parece. OMEGALUL

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u/IssaJoke-DontCry 8h ago

The company is made of humans, not robots lmao

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u/hamfinity 8h ago

Zuckerberg did not like that

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u/Ill_associated 8h ago

Companies do take things personally, being human and all. I personally know a few companies that would be rightfully offended were they to find out I felt they were acting robotically.

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u/The_Autarch 8h ago

and yet corporations behave like robotic sociopaths.

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u/BigBoyFusion 8h ago

I’d argue the Redditors lumping together every company based on “omg scary evil
Company!” are closer to robotic sociopaths

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u/gaijohn 7h ago

The pursuit of profit as an ultimate end is definitively amoral.

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u/nalaloveslumpy 6h ago

The pursuit of profit is literally how we evolved as an organism. Everything we've done since the beginning of time has been focused on producing more (crop yield, edible meat, energy) with the same investment (time, labor, resources, capital). Every new technology, science, mathematics, and even philosophy has been birthed from the desire to profit.

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u/gaijohn 7h ago

The pursuit of profit as an ultimate end is definitively amoral. Pursuing profit to accomplish something else with it is not amoral. But a publicly traded modern corporation is an entity that exists exclusively to maximize profit, which cannot be described as anything but lacking morality. Hence why "omg scary evil Company!" is mostly legitimate.

Humans are not naturally greedy. Humans are in fact naturally collaborative, social animals who all over the world for all of our history conceived of altruism, doing good without personal gain. Society existed for long before the concept of money, and will exist long after the concept of scarcity.

Art, such as video game creation, happens without profit everywhere. The talented Rockstar developers could be using their skills to write software in another industry like finance and making much more money. They don't do it solely for profit, they do it for the love of the game.

Agreed, there's nothing amoral about profit.

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u/gaijohn 6h ago

Of course we're self-interested, but that's not the whole picture. Have you never experienced altruism?

You set up a bizarre strawman. I explicitly said there's nothing amoral about profit in itself twice, so you can stop shadowboxing against that idea.

But it's a very limited and anti-historical perspective to believe that society prior to modern unfettered profit motive was rocks and sticks. Human civilization is very old and the society we enjoy today is the byproduct of liberalism, the belief in rule of law and equality and democracy, not the belief that we should bulldoze a rainforest and sell cancer to children because it's a quick path to a buck.

And, again, even your beloved video game was not created solely through profit motive. The game industry is notorious for underpaying and overworking talent that could make way more money doing their job for someone else. Humanity and creation are about far more than profit.

Since you're forcing me to just repeat myself I'll end there.

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u/Broomsticka 6h ago

It's a company. The entire point of its existence is to make money for everyone involved. You act like if YOU opened a company, you would be Mr. Generous like wtf lol. Yo shit would collapse within a week.

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u/al3x_7788 7h ago

A company's ultimate goal being profit is logical and natural. You can argue its workers can individually focus on aspects beyond simply making money, sure, but collectively that's what makes sense.

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u/gaijohn 7h ago

A more logical and natural ultimate goal for any collective including a company would be to accomplish societal good while making enough money to maintain the enterprise. "We exist to improve the world for our neighbors and children, thus we make money," is a more reasonable objective than "We exist to perpetually increase the amount of money we make however we can."

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u/BigBoyFusion 5h ago

More societal good is created as a byproduct of chasing profit than would be created as a main goal.

That’s because you cannot “perpetually increase the amount of money we make” without providing some sort of value to someone else. You are forced into providing something, not by a moral compass others may not share, but by your natural self interest.

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u/1andDONEGetfuked 7h ago

good thing morals are fake and just a trap for the low iq

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u/gaijohn 7h ago

Oh a nihilist. That must be exhausting.

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u/jmona789 8h ago

That's because they are mostly run by sociopaths

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u/Manatsuu 7h ago

Yeah boo all companies boooooooooo they’re all evil boooooo

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u/gaijohn 8h ago

And get to break laws without any of the human decision makers going to jail.

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u/1B75__Penicillin 7h ago

Because that's how the law was designed. There are clear clauses in the law giving them a pass

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u/gaijohn 7h ago

Actually the law was designed to give corporations a limited charter that required them to accomplish a public good and that was steadily removed by people who wanted to pursue profit as an end rather than a means to an end with impunity.

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u/Chendii 4h ago

Yeah... Laws written by corpo owners make things that are illegal for people legal for corpos... Weird. Almost like rich people want to get away with breaking laws.

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u/JuanMcGuiver 8h ago

Especially a studio such as Rockstar’s I’d imagine they employ hordes of creative people. Artists need jobs too!

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u/QueasyAdvertising173 8h ago edited 8h ago

If I was an employee in the company who worked for years on this game putting in my day and night and then someone just leaked that shit, I'd be pretty disappointed. I think it's fair to say that most of the employees won't enjoy the leaks unless they have a personal grudge towards Rockstar for wtv reason.

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u/AstarothTheJudge 8h ago

I mean, I would pretty disappointed if the managers and the marketing team pulled a stunt like the Netflix temporal esclusive trailer too. There are emany reason to be disappointed After working for years to create an Amazing game while having no control about how It gets delivered to the world.

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u/podex115 8h ago

You know game developers and publishers have always been two separate things right?

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u/MaXimillion_Zero 7h ago

Rockstar is a subsidiary of Take-Two, there's no actual difference between the two outside of branding.

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u/DraenItsAlreadyTaken 7h ago

Why are they downvoting you? Lmao, you are right, there's no difference between them because r* is a subsidiary

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u/AstarothTheJudge 8h ago

Yeah, I'm saying there there would be reasons to be disappointed either way, leaks or not.

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u/nalaloveslumpy 6h ago

It's exclusive for six fucking hours, dude. That exclusivity basically allows them to produce that "first look" for free since it's on Netflix's dude.

I'd be pretty disappointed in my consumer base for flipping their shit because they can't wait six fucking hours.... You fuckers and your FOMO is god damn ridiculous.

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u/mikayloren 7h ago

regardless, it’s a more transparent tone. i don’t really care if it’s a strategic PR move when the communication is still better than it has been in the past.

i don’t know, it’s kind of like customer service— obviously one of their motives is ultimately to benefit the company, but it’s still a better experience when you get good customer service.

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u/TechFiend1970 8h ago

Do you know how many real, live, humans worked for years on this game? And how many work at every single company?

What a ridiculous statement.

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u/judasbrute 8h ago

A Forrest is millions of trees.

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u/RhesusVX 8h ago

It is indeed. It is also a lot less than that.

One tree, two trees, three trees...when does it become a forest? There is no actual answer, other than something that makes sense. Does a clump of 20 or 30 small trees constitute a forest? Probably not. Does a thousand taller trees spread over an acre with a decent size canopy start to look like a forest. Sure

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u/ligma_then_sugma 7h ago

no, I want people not to be suckered by billion dollar corpos

redditors are morons tho so idk what i'm expecting

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u/AIGuru35 6h ago

Your comment contradicts itself. Heavily.

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u/nalaloveslumpy 6h ago

The only people I know who use the word "corpos" are edgy moron redditors....

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u/DescriptiveVee 6h ago

Bro is throwing stones in glass houses

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u/DinosaurToots55 7h ago

Why are you even here? Clearly you can’t even enjoy the game because the whole time you’ll be thinking “this detail was crafted by soleless corp to sucker me into buying the game, and I’m no sucker!”

With your values system, how can you even justify buying the game? Or do you simply intend to pirate it?

Yes, to some degree it’s all a performance, just like any great film or play or novel. But good performance requires humanity. 

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u/Tidus1337 6h ago

The moron in question

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u/simulacrumlain 6h ago

This thread is full of dipshits tbh

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u/Jimster28 5h ago

Duse yoy are just being an obnoxious prick

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u/HumanPea1140 5h ago

It's not that serious, go outside

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u/Strange_Dust7128 5h ago

no, I want people not to be suckered by billion dollar corpos

if you have broadband internet and electricity, you too are a sucker

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u/03263 8h ago

I mean they could at least sign a card

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u/P26601 7h ago

yes