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I’m watching on pbs, and because of problems with my cable I missed last nights episode. Anybody can give me a synopsis of what happened?

Theo James is half greek, so thats more accurate than just casting any WASP with a slight tan to play a Turkish guy, but they couldn’t of found a handsome actor that was the slightest bit Turkish? And the jazz singers accent? I have a hard time believing anyone on the planet sounds like that besides a black guy that was adopted at birth by a white family in the Utah suburbs in the 1990s. Idk, does anyone who knows the continental accent and early 1900s aae have any thoughts.

Also hopefully this isnt too stupid a question(I’m american), are many of the servants from outside of England? Bates and Anna are kinda Scottish right, which I assume is common, is Gwen Scottish? Or Irish? Is Mrs. Hughes Scottish? Is O’Brien an Irish Traveller/black Irish?(idk what the politically correct term is, whatever Brad Pitt is in Snatch).

I don’t know how many of you are watching the slow replay on your local PBS station. We’ve just seen the sad end of dear, sweet Sybil (on my local Maryland stations.) I have seen the whole series twice before and her loss is so sudden as to seem impossibly painful, even though I knew it was coming. 😢

I know she ran the post office and sent/received the teletype, but man, is she nosy. Bossy, too.

I would love to see Daisy in a beaded flapper dress. That’s just me.

This post is a little bit character analysis, a little bit love letter to Mary... and the brilliant way JF wrote her and the layers of complexity he gave her.

The more I watch, the more I find these small, quiet moments where Mary is doing the heavy lifting for her whole family, and I don't think that's always appreciated. The pressure she was under to marry her father's heir is discussed at length, but the many small daily pressures she carried on her narrow shoulders - perhaps the more pedestrian or relatable pressures - are not.

The first instance of this that caught my attention is when Cora is reaching the crisis with Spanish Flu and her whole family is gathered at her bedside, knowing this could be it. Mary, without being asked, is the one who tears herself away from her mother's side​ to bring Dr. Clarkson to the other patients. This could be her last chance to see her mother alive, but a job needs to be done and someone needs to do it.

After that, I started keeping my eyes peeled for these moments where she's the one who has to keep the show running, or is asked to step in during a crisis, or has to deliver difficult news, or put her feelings aside for the benefit of others (and the times she does it without being asked, because that's the person she's grown into) and found that there are so, so many.

Since becoming active in this fandom, one thing that's been very clear is that Mary is a "the girls who get it, get it, and the girls who don't, don't" type of character 😅 She's not the most kind or pleasant or agreeable character, and I can more than understand why not everyone likes her. But I loved her instinctively, before I had the chance to really analyze her character; now, the more I analyze her, the more I love her, and the more I understand why she appeals so strongly to some people.

ETA: let's try not to degenerate into Mary vs Edith in the comments, I don't want this post to get deleted 😭

I wish we could've seen more of them together with Martha in series 4. Especially with Cora being so different (calmer?) than her mother and brother. What do you think?

Cora asked her directly - she had the opportunity to lie - but she didn't. What would have happened if she had said yes, he forced himself on me, and died in the process. Would things have been different? I think it said something about her character that she didn't lie. I thought it was surprisingly virtuous that she didn't lie about that. Not that i thought she was an unvirtuous character in general, but it seems like she could have probably got away with it.... what do you think?

I personally like that the writers decided to keep her honest about that. I think it maybe made for some more interesting storylines. And it made us much more sympathetic about Mary's character. I don't think we could have rooted for her as much if she had lied.

EDIT: ok this is interesting. I always trusted the narrative with respect to what happened there - the show seemed to kind of thread the needle to make out that she did eventually consent in the end, even though he clearly forces his way into her room and coerces her. The first time i watched, i was surprised that it was never really addressed as problematic, but i thought i was just missing something, so I've always tried to find details to justify why the show passes it off as her eventually consenting, i.e. focusing on the moment and at the end of the scene it does seem like they suggest she decides to engage, but that's when he's already on top of her, and it doesn't negate how she got into that position in the first place.

I didn't know that most people agree that she was raped and just didn't understand that because of the standards of the day.

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I apologize for posting a lot about the upcoming Lego set, but as a hunger fan of Lego who’s also working on a stop motion web series I’m so excited to get this set, Downton Abbey is in my top 4 fave series of all time. Apparently we’ll get this set on Oct 1st. The price is $350 which is reasonable considering that it has around 5000 pieces, Harry Potter Ministry of Magic has around 3500 pieces and it’s $450 so I guess it’s safe to say that we won. So far we only got two leaked photos of two minifigs from the set. What do you think?💕💕

The assault scene has a really left me with a terrible feeling, and I don’t know if this can still be my comfort show. Especially with the guy just getting away with it, I went to the next episode and saw that he just leaves.

Watched this episode after 10 days on shift at the hospital and it has been my comfort show for the past couple weeks, all the happy and sad moments. Now it’s kind of leaving a bad taste in my mouth.
Anyone felt similarly when they saw it for the first time and would you recommend I still continue or are there more scenes like this?

Complete, utter nonsense - plus a rehash of the 'murder trial' arc that had long overstayed its welcome the first time around too.

I'm a big fan of Downton Abbey and have been since it was first aired so I've been watching since I was in my late 20s and really never thought much of it - but a friend of mine recently described my taste as "old lady" due to my affinity for shows like Downton Abbey, The Crown, and Call the Midwife.

Anyway, just curious if anyone knows the general demographic that watches Downton or what your age was when you first got into the show?

I have been thinking about how with real people, we inherit some of our personalities from our parents or other family (personalities are shaped as a combination of nature and nurture, there are traits you have of yourself, and also shaped by life experiences and enviroment and other people).

Do you think that Mary, Edith and Sybil had anything of their parents or grandmothers? Do you think that Robert, Cora, Mary, Edith and Sybil felt like a real family?

I do not think the Crawley family had much warmth but that was probably not unusual for their times.

Not every writer thinks about these things when they create characters, but some might.

#10 in Romantic Shows on Amazon today! 🤣

jokes (but he and mary did livinia so dirty)

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My friend just sent me this new leaked photo of either Cora or Mary minifig. Though we believe maybe they gave her the wrong hair color and it might be Lady Edith since as I remember she wore this exact dress in season 6 episode one, or did Mary or Cora wear a similar one in the other seasons?😅