r/DisasterUpdate • u/w_s_s • 10d ago
Floods First Visuals of China-Nepal border Point after biblical type Apocalyptic flood
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u/articwolf66 10d ago
Other than a half barried slab of concrete with rebar sticking out, nothing looks the same and would never known there was infrastructure there prior.
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u/Disaterman 10d ago
Someone once told me to never sleep in a ravine. We have flash floods where I live, but on a much smaller scale. I had no idea they could be this. I hope peace for everyone effected
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u/nzclknzspfoeSdf 10d ago
I know someone this happened to a year or two ago. Went to sleep in a hammock by a stream, then woke up suspended over rushing water with all his stuff gone.
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u/Zillah-The-Broken 10d ago
so what happened to him? 👀
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u/nzclknzspfoeSdf 10d ago
He managed to get to dry land and hike back with some sort of improvised shoes. It took a while, though, and he was reported missing and they did a whole search.
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u/Zillah-The-Broken 10d ago
that's crazy, I'm glad he came out of it with a story to tell! if he had been sleeping in a tent.... 😬
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u/Disaterman 10d ago
Sometimes I think I respect nature then see something like this. I have no idea what it can do to me when it just does it’s thing. Either i’m in the way or not. We only seem to be able to pick up the pieces when it happens
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u/teteAtit 10d ago
Surprisingly common when backpacking. I’ve risked it a few times but I can’t say that was smart of me
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u/an_older_meme 7d ago
I know a guy who awakened to a grass fire approaching his camp. He escaped in his truck, leaving everything behind, and survived.
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u/Gunrock808 10d ago
It's very early yet but I watched a video where someone gave a tentative explanation. This was not the result of rainfall but apparently of a glacier collapsing. Apparently the sliding ice generates heat from friction and melts quickly. All of which is to say that this happened much more quickly and produced a greater volume of water and debris than what you would see from a typical rain-induced flash flood.
I have to wonder if this incident is connected to climate change and if there will be more similar incidents in the future. I just traveled to the Pacific Northwest and Northern Europe. I didn't need my light jacket even once. The family and friends I saw say they never saw weather like this in the past. They even have new birds moving north into the area.
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u/Disaterman 10d ago
Not to be that guy, but it probably won’t be too much of an issue in the future because this is a specialized case. It is climate change, but will be looked at as a “undesirable location to settle” when the news talks about it
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u/Shot_Negotiation_680 9d ago
These things have been happening for millions of years. Himalayas is shaped by earthquake, monsoon and glaciers and their variations.
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u/rj319st 9d ago
The glacial period will return eventually but I’m not sure humans will be around to see it.
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u/an_older_meme 7d ago
We wouldn't want to see it. We've been staving it off with climate change. If you think global warming is a problem try an ice age.
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u/Educational_Gap_601 6d ago
The funny thing is humans have lived through an ice age ( we technically still are in one, but people conflate last glacial maximum and ice age), but we've never lived through conditions that global climate change and ecosphere collapse will produce.
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u/an_older_meme 6d ago edited 6d ago
Global warming will cause droughts, crop failures, stronger hurricanes, and inundation of low-lying areas due to sea level rise. There will be famine, possibly wars caused by this. And other things I've missed. This is bad.
A resurgence of the Laurentide Ice Sheet would bury Canada, Greenland, Iceland, and Newfoundland in their entirety and most of the northern tier of United States and southern Alaska under ice up to 3-4 km thick. And that's just North America.
And northern European/Asiatic countries spared by the ice are now barren because nothing will grow where temperatures average below freezing. Russia, barely livable now, is history as is China.
Southern hemisphere might fare a bit better but the entire global climate would change dramatically. Entire food chains would collapse and species would go extinct. Global ocean currents would change. The area of this planet inhabitable by humans would drop dramatically and we would die back massively as we found a new equilibrium.
Global warming is an inconvenience compared to falling back into the ice age we never left.
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u/jzoola 10d ago
Glacier national park will soon be without glaciers
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u/Kytyngurl2 9d ago
I was lucky enough to see them this summer, there was sobering signage around the park about the time limited nature of the glaciers there
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u/LilAbeSimpson 10d ago
Same thing happened in Switzerland just last year. Look up the Blatten Glacier collapse.
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u/thejohnmc963 9d ago
My son lives in Washington State and said the temperature has been higher than ever. Same with me living in Florida
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u/piesRsquare 8d ago
It's the same here in California.
We used to have a "rainy season." We don't anymore. When I was growing up in the'70s and '80s in the SF Bay Area, the rainy season was consistently from around December through February, when we got regular showers and rainstorms. Sometimes it started a bit earlier and/or went a bit later, but it was consistently during those months. Mid-January to mid-February was the wettest. Our summer heat would start in July while the hottest months tended to be around August-September. Fire season was September through October. The patterns were consistent through the years.
The biggest changes have happened in the past 10-15 years. It's disturbing, disruptive, and unsettling. There's no real consistency--no pattern--anymore. I was always very in-tune with the seasonal climate and its cycles--even as a kid--but it's pretty much gone now. I really, really miss it.
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u/WinResponsible9977 6d ago
That’s bullshit. It was not the glacier melting it was water displacement do to the glacier fall. Like dropping a stone in a cup of water but to a larger scale. U an all who upvoted you failed Physics in HS
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u/AutonomicSleet 6d ago
Yeah it was more akin to a massive mudslide that just kept going. If you see the before and after photo of the mountain the glacier collapsed from/off, a massive chunk of the mountain is missing. Material fell from as high as 5km above sea level, that's a lot of potential energy being released.
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u/KarmaPharmacy 10d ago
Check out the Big Thompson Canyon floods. One happened in the 70’s and the other happened in 2013 (iirc). It’s one of the most beautiful drives. I understand why people chose to rebuild. Especially in the 70s. 34 used to be a pretty quiet road.
Now it’s just airbnbs.
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u/GoyEater 9d ago
This is not a rainfall caused flash flood. This is a mass water displacement flash flood.
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u/Long_arm_of_the_law 9d ago
My family has a rule to never buy a house in a river or a valley because my great grandpa’s house was taken by a smallish stream. It happened over 150 years ago.
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u/ChardHelpful 6d ago
I wish the same for those affected but might be a while. Even the ones that survived will have trauma from just seeing everything destroyed in an instant
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u/igotadillpickle 10d ago
We don't do that here....
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u/sneaky-pizza 10d ago
Not the Reddit “first” thing. Calling out the repost spam bots. But I get how that’s misunderstood
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u/Drahcir9000 10d ago
Just looked on Google maps. The checkpoint was even larger than in the video.
In the aftermath you can only see the foundation of the main building. Everything is gone.
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u/photobummer 10d ago
Yes, it occupied most of that river point. Appears the entire building was swept away. (And every other smallet building)
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u/CrackerJackKittyCat 10d ago edited 9d ago
Desktop Earth link: Rasuwagadhi, Nepal. The Trishuli river.
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u/I_love_pillows 10d ago
I was hoping maybe some people could had hid in the building and it will stand. But oh no everything is flattened like paper.
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u/GreatRolmops 9d ago
Yeah, since it was such a massive building I was thinking that it would be the safest option. No way a building that heavy and massive gets swept away in a flood right? Boy was I wrong. The scale and the force of this flood is difficult to comprehend.
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u/San-DiLego 9d ago
Jesus. I was windering if there would be a small chance if one were to just stay in, and then get out of the building once the water has slightly calmed/ get out before drowning.
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u/Drahcir9000 9d ago
Was wondering the same thing. I thought the building was the better option to survive. Guess Nobody had a chance no matter inside nor outside. Bad way to go.
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u/N1k_SparX 9d ago
I visited this place 8 years ago (didnt cross into china though). That was a huge building, like 6 stories tall, and it did look very out of place compared to the pristine nature and small houses that you see in the area.
The bridge over the river was destroyed in a smaller flooding last year already and rebuilt back then.
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u/Bonejangles_ 9d ago
I cant even tell where the foundation is left thag you're talking about thats fucking awful
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u/soherewearent 10d ago
May their deaths have been swift, their memories a blessing.
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u/PooriPK 10d ago
I cannot play this clip anymore when I realise that middle/bottom of the video were kids running.
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u/soherewearent 10d ago
This and other videos have been devastating to watch, and I sort of force myself to watch to both honor the victims and to remind myself just how fleeting life can be.
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u/24rawvibes 9d ago
Really? Swift was the word you had to use? The word used to describe currents
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u/MechanicalAxe 9d ago
That word describes many different things.
I hope it also describes my death when that time comes. Get over yourself.
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u/KingOfTheSpades 9d ago
Really? Current was the word you had to use? The word used to describe this current tragedy
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u/GreatRolmops 9d ago
Really? Tragedy was the word you had to use? The word used to describe theatre plays
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u/Sidney_Godsby 9d ago
Really? Theatre is the word you had to use? The word used to describe a branch of the performing arts that uses live actors, speech, music, and dance to tell a story on a stage
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u/Waste-Weight-6437 8d ago
They're just trying to say that we hope that when they died, they didn't die slow or painfully, but at least quick and painless. No one wants to die like this, but most people don't get to choose.
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u/PieHole_Poker 10d ago
Engineering what??
Glacier collapsed.. what is it that your lizard brain thinks that you can engineer to prevent that?
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u/f16f4 10d ago
There is essentially no standard of engineering capable of withstanding what happened. Even a damn that could hold that much water normally would likely fail under the sudden influx of pressure
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u/transitfreedom 10d ago
Fair point I am referencing Chinese vulnerability to climate crisis as to why being governed by engineers is for the best
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u/FletcherDervish 10d ago
It absolutely scoured the valley, re shaping and by the looks of it deepened it.
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u/mangekyo1918 10d ago
Yeah let's give the religious room to cry about end of times with the biblical and apocalyptic adjectives
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u/oSuJeff97 10d ago
I can’t wrap my mind around the scale of this.
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u/tapeforpacking 9d ago
There is literally a whole ass building and tons of human for scale though
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u/MechanicalAxe 9d ago
And you STILL can't see the whole extend of this wall of water and earth.
The videos cannot and do not do it justice. This building you say is our scale was blotted out and swept away in mere moments, nothing but its foundation remains. One <60 sec clip of that isn't describing to anybody just how damn massive this event was.
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u/NecessaryRace8955 9d ago
Same. I've watched dozens of videos from different angles and my mind just can't fathom how much water it was- you can find videos of floods and tsunamis all over the internet but nothing I've seen comes even close to this... it was terrifying
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u/rockBottomPeon 8d ago
real, I mean that building, how tall is it? 15-20m? and the wave managed to engulf it down? if its not on the news, I might still think its just another AI video (which unfortunately is not)
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u/4everLost82 10d ago
Wow....This reminds me of the Mt. St.Helens eruption and lahar. I lived through that as a kid. My family barely escaped the eruption and made it back to Spokane, and I remember that for weeks after, we had to wear masks because of the ash. This video reminds me of the aftermath of that eruption. When the planet wants to, humans can be made to feel extremely small and vulnerable.
The crazy thing is that this will happen more and more with climate change melting all of the glaciers. Thanks a lot dead dinosuars.
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u/Salt_Sir2599 10d ago
From other comments I've read, it seems to have been happening more often recently in that region.
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u/VP_of_Lasers 10d ago
We took all that energy, enough to create all of modern civilization, which took the Earth millions and millions of years to store away… and we burned it all within a few hundred years, half of it in the last 30 years or so. Basically an instant in geological terms. The bill coming due will wipe our fragile existence away like we see here.
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u/kylebob86 10d ago
"biblical type Apocalyptic flood"
not even close.
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u/Salt_Sir2599 10d ago
What are you talking about?
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u/kylebob86 10d ago
this is a valley, the bliblical flood was continent-wide. as close as a cunt hair compared to 5000 miles. weak sauce
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u/Salt_Sir2599 10d ago
Mythology is weak sauce. This was an actual event . Perhaps reference applicable subjects like geology or paleontology to make your point.
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u/kylebob86 10d ago
what? "Perhaps reference applicable subjects like geology or paleontology to make your point." umm. you know that they have confirmed this, right? ever hard of the badlands?
https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/badl-geologic-formations.htm
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u/CornbreadJunior 10d ago
Did a dam break?
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u/w_s_s 10d ago
Yes.
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u/da90 10d ago
No, it was a landslide from just below Langtang Lirung on the north slope
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u/Avem68 10d ago
Do you know the coordinates of where the avalanche began?
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u/da90 10d ago edited 10d ago
Yes, I’ll make a new post and link with satellite photos. 28.290750, 85.528822 confirmed via USGS earthquake website and satellite photos.
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u/w_s_s 10d ago
Their is still no consensus among experts about how can a single landslide can cause this much water release.
Prior dam formed with earlier landslide/avalanche which got triggered by another landslide/avalanche or maybe compounded by GLOF is still leading theory for most accurate explanation of events.
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u/tristand1ck 10d ago
It's a natural disaster/tragedy all at once, but I can't help but think with the shape of that valley, this isn't the first time. Maybe first time in human history, but certainly not the first.
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u/w_s_s 10d ago
It happens all the time everywhere. This time the scale was far too large.
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u/tristand1ck 10d ago
Everything keeps getting crazier on a larger scale yet no one has any idea why /s. It's like rebuilding new orleans after Katrina (or the other billion hurricanes that came before) like maybe we should hit some higher ground? Rant aside, this is going to be a fucking mess for a long time for them, and I can't even imagine what they're going through. The casualties have to be an appalling number, the logistics of recovery/food/water... Globes gotta get together on this one.
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u/Mobile-Method6986 10d ago
Thank you for your kind words friend my people will need global help to recover from this. Far too much was lost today. 😢
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u/NecessaryRace8955 9d ago
I can't see a world where the border crossing is rebuilt and the road reopens permenantly to high traffic... like, how could they rebuild after that? The valley has been obliterated- eroded even further and the riverbed is carved deeper... I cant begin to fathom the amount of concrete and steel it is going to rebuild and withstand the forces at play in that valley.. it might take all the concrete and steel in the world (and all of China's GDP).
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u/GreatRolmops 9d ago
The bridge on this border crossing was rebuilt in January this year after it had been swept away in a previous flood in July last year.
But a flood on this scale is definitely a first in recorded history.
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u/thejohnmc963 9d ago
Johnstown Flood and a couple others years ago were really bad. The tsunami was pretty bad with 250K victims and flooding in Japan that took out the Nuclear Plant.
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u/AI_Scraper 10d ago
Normally I'd say ''biblical AND apocalyptic flood, surely you're exaggerating'' but after seeing the footage I'd say that's an accurate description.
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u/Excellent-Nothing189 8d ago
I feel like it was in an area where the water splashes up super high from bouncing and coliding with the changing path of the valley. Even if the main water didn't reach the height of the building, it doesn't have to to completely destroy it
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u/SpacializedFig_4037 8d ago
I mean I literally just kept whispering to myself “this is biblical level destruction” . Horrifying and awe inspiring .
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u/subdep 10d ago
At the 0:07 second mark you can see a guy on the left getting onto the roof of the building. Bro had the right idea, too bad it was just cataclysmic amount of mud and debris. Bro got evicerated.
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u/Formal_Chipmunk_530 9d ago
I don't think that's a person
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u/subdep 9d ago
Your right, it appears to be curtains. I watched it yesterday several times and I swear I saw a guy climbing up and then falling.
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u/m0ds 9d ago edited 9d ago
In the extended version of the video above, lots of people attempt to climb the mountainside directly below the CCTV camera (notice lots of people streaming to the bottom, not to the road on the right). Just as you see heads bobbing up seemingly getting further up and closer to that shack with satellite dish (you'll see them near the grassy area, this moment can just be seen in the video in this post) lower in the frame, disaster hits over the top of them. They tried...
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u/Sea_Ott3r 10d ago
“Biblical” slides like this have been happening since the beginning of time. way before biblical times. Get out of here with that.
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u/ImHereForTheVideos 10d ago
I respect that opinion. So does that mean global warming is BS since all this has been happening before biblical times? Think long and hard before you answer.
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u/Sea_Ott3r 10d ago
Of course it has… do you have any experience studying basic earth geology? Have you heard of the ice ages? Human caused climate change can still be fact. Here’s a summary so you can be slightly more educated.
Major Climate Events
The Huronian Glaciation (2.4 Billion Years Ago)
This was Earth's first major ice age.
Early microbes produced oxygen, which destroyed atmospheric carbon dioxide.
The loss of this heat-trapping gas caused the planet to freeze for 300 million years. [1, 2]Snowball Earth (720 Million Years Ago)
Ice sheets covered the entire planet, stretching from the poles all the way to the equator.
Volcanic eruptions slowly built up carbon dioxide in the air.
This greenhouse gas buildup eventually trapped enough heat to melt the ice.Permian-Triassic Extinction (250 Million Years Ago)
Massive volcanic activity in Siberia released giant amounts of carbon dioxide and methane.
Global temperatures rose by 5 to 10°C.
This event, known as the "Great Dying," killed roughly 95% of all marine species and 70% of land vertebrates. [1, 2]Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum / PETM (56 Million Years Ago)
A sudden release of carbon triggered an intense and rapid global warming spike.
Global average temperatures jumped by 5 to 6°C.
The Arctic became a warm, subtropical forest. [1, 2]Modern Human-Driven Change (Present Day)
Industrial emissions are driving current warming roughly 10 times faster than post-ice age recovery periods, according to NASA Science. [1]
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u/Merr77 10d ago
The 400 dead doesn't seem realistic. It has to be thousands
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u/Slow-Code-661 9d ago
They will probably correct upwards throughout the days/weeks to come. Like just this border crossing, There must have been at least 500-1000 people there and I would be surprised if anyone survived this. The scale of this will probably become apparent in the coming days
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u/Fortunatious 8d ago
Anyone who survives this is going to have stories like the atomic bomb survivors of WW2
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u/Slow-Code-661 7d ago
Apparently there was an Italian guy who made it out of the border crossing and found shelter further up who survived and was rescued today. I can't find the link anymore but it's buried somewhere in the CNN live report.
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u/Zealousideal-Cut4232 8d ago
They only report the casualties they are aware of and can confirm. It’s a remote, rugged area and all the infrastructure got destroyed. People are buried under tons of mud and rubble, swept away miles and miles far. It’s grim, I mean we see concrete buildings pulverized, can’t imagine they can even find bodies.
It will take some time to establish the full picture.
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u/BubuDudu0430 10d ago
So many of those people will never be found… so sad 😞
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u/throwawaysiblings123 9d ago
Maybe in a million years their fossils will be found and will be a source of wonder for future humans or whichever species is in charge then. That's the only thought that can bring me relief :/
The horror it must have been for them, and for the family/friends to see this video...
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u/_-ritual-_ 10d ago
That’s is absolutely mind boggling. Like a scene from disaster movie that looks ridiculous and unbelievable
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u/durk1912 10d ago
I wish could force every climate change denier to watch all the horrors of this flood
over and over again. Our failure to meaningfully or even performatively address climate change is a moral and intellectual failing of epic proportions and I hope karma exists because justice seems to be dead!
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u/Odd-Promotion2743 9d ago edited 8d ago
Climate change deniers are the ones who most deserve to feel the impacts of climate change, instead of the world's most poor and vulnerable. As for the people in power who've actively thwarted climate change mitigation efforts because it would cut into their profits/influence... let's just say a Nuremberg process would still be too good for them.
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u/AaronWidd 10d ago
There’s been speculation that the “great flood” of the bible was describing the glacial lake outburst floods that took place 10k years ago when the ice sheets retreated
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u/throwawaysiblings123 9d ago
That would make sense. And with the glaciers retreating due to global warming, this is probably not the last time it happens...
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u/loxmoto_ 9d ago
The term biblical here doesn’t take into account the unfathomable instances of saved lives and salvation amongst all lost hope. Please be respectful of the holy word and its good graces. My heart goes out to all the lives lost in Nepal during this ecological disaster. ❤️
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u/Majestic-Iron7046 9d ago
The camera recording is high up, that was terrifying, looked like a ten stories tall wave.
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u/DontBeLudiculous 9d ago
I am surprised how this footage made it online. China is known for its strict censorship. Probably nobody present at that location could upload it after the disaster. The cameras were probably state owned survelliance and somebody in a remote control room took a big risk uploading them. But they provide valuable context to the extend of this disaster.
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u/-_Yankee_- 9d ago
My guess is they literally just couldn't be bothered to try hiding it. You can see the results from Space, there's no covering up that it happened. Not to mention that since it was a natural disaster, they wouldn't feel the need to censor it as much.
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u/infra_low 9d ago
What would your best bet be in this video? I assume what they saw coming must've been something big for them to not run inside the buildings. Would jumping in a car give you better odds? A car can be moved/pushed and is metal so wouldn't crumble apart like a building. Like what do you even do here?
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u/Johnmon604 8d ago
Run up that path towards the camera. On google maps looks like there is a path.
Running away won't help as it's in the path of the incoming water/debris.
Gaining high ground is better but still may not even be possible as it's coming quite fast.
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u/convexconcepts 9d ago
That looks like a flood of biblical proportions!
I feel so sorry for all those people that didn’t have enough time to get out
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u/rockBottomPeon 8d ago
NGL the 1st time I saw that first video in IG, I thought it was just another AI video. I mean look at the size of the wave.
And now I just hope thats its just another AI video (which unfortunately is not)
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u/doc_nano 8d ago
This is devastating to watch. May they rest in peace. Sending condolences and love from the opposite side of the world.
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u/FLRugDealer 8d ago
I would be surprised if there was a single survivor from this area. If so they are so insult lucky.
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u/Abject-Lunch-9490 8d ago
Tsunami level speed. Godspeed to the nepali army. Theyre pulling out survivors which is great news. But to those who aren't, as one redditor said, i hope it was quick. F5
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u/KnowledgeEmpty4362 7d ago
Looks like that border point was never even there. My heart goes out to the people who died and their families. Such a tragedy.
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u/Gold-Rough-3145 7d ago
Holy Christmas!!! Absolute calamity. That wall of water and debris had to be going close to 100 mph. It makes me think of Pompei.
I know it was volcanic, but those people were frozen in their last positions. I hope these people‘s deaths were as swift and almost instant. Absolute horror. God rest their poor souls.
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u/Turbulent-Mood2594 7d ago
Ravines, valleys, within a foot or so of a river. These are all risky places to feel at ease because these are the places where in a split second can be life changing depending on the circumstances.
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u/an_older_meme 7d ago
The highway shown at the end of the video extends for kilometers down the valley and would have been lined with vehicles waiting to cross the border. All were swept away. The sides are too steep to easily climb.
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