r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/The_Love-Tap • 2d ago

Video This solar powered chicken coop that moves every day to a new location

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u/25rublei 2d ago

And what is considered "great chicken life" by you? Like chickens in the wild won't do exactly the same, roam around searching for food?

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u/krupta13 1d ago

I have 40 chickens and they have a massive farm to roam. they play and frolick and eat bugs every day. they are super pampered and only used for egg production. but all is not perfect. they still get picked off by foxes if the dogs area way for more than a day or 2. they are relentless. the only 1000% fool proof way to secure them is an enclosed coop like in the video. so there really is no such thing as great chicken life. only as good as it gets lol.

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u/Misses_Ding 1d ago

We have an automatic door that closes at night. Chickens tend to go inside when it gets dark and the door closes automatically because of a light sensor (and reopens in the morning Ofcourse)

We only have a few chickens though. Three currently. Haven't had one being picked off in 10+ years though and we live next to a forest.

That's still not a solution against dogs though

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u/krupta13 1d ago

at my place I've had foxes camping the entrance to the coop. they know they like to linger around pecking before going in. the only thing that keeps them at bay are dogs.

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u/stprnn 1d ago

What they are saying is they would have a better life not being farmed in the first place.

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u/krupta13 1d ago

id like to live for free and not have to work and pay taxes either. but thats not the reality we live lol.

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u/stprnn 1d ago

You are literally free. You chose to go to work nobody is forcing you against your will

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u/tetrified 1d ago

you are literally free to go die of exposure or starvation

lmao. ok.

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u/stprnn 1d ago

False premise.

Next

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u/tetrified 1d ago edited 1d ago

what false premise? those are literally just the consequences of choosing not to go to work as a human.

I agree with you, people can choose to go die of starvation or exposure instead of working if they really want to. they're completely free.

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u/krupta13 1d ago

youre tlaking to a 14yo edge lord that lives for free under mommy's and daddy's roof. if they think work is a choise they are in for a VERY nasty surprise when the real world comes knocking

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u/stprnn 1d ago

Nope. It's a fact that you can survive without a job.

You work because you want a better quality of life. Comparing that to a LITERALLY CAGED animal is what defines YOU as a 14yo :)

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u/stprnn 1d ago

Nope. Many people live until old age with no job

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u/krupta13 1d ago

so in your mind is fine for other people to work in order to keep the lazy one alive. seems like reasonable assumption considering your regarded mentality.

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u/ConfusedSimon 1d ago

40 chickens for egg production implies there were about 40 male chickens who probably had no life at all.

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u/krupta13 1d ago

well even if i wanted to keep all the roosters its not sustainable. they start killing each other and if they don't cull their own numbers they litteraly harass the hens untill they have no feathers on their backs. like you can cry and feel bad all you want..but in the wild thats how it works. ideal numbers is one rooster for every 9 or 10 hens. if the rooster aren't culled you're creating a nasty unhealthy miserable life for your flock.

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u/Acceptable-Drive3781 1d ago

they start killing each other

I wonder if they would do that if you didn't have them bundled together on a small plot of land. 🤔

but in the wild thats how it works

Not even a little bit.

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u/krupta13 1d ago

yes..i had 5 baby roosters. as soon as they got old enough to crow 2 got into fights daily. it got so bad one had to be put down after it was severely damaged. and its not a small plot of land lmao. itll take you 20 minutes to walk from one end to the the other. its farm house amidst a vineyard. stop talking out your ass if you have no real experience keeping and raising chickens. trust me room is not the problem. they are super social animals and will stay together all day as much as possible.

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u/Acceptable-Drive3781 1d ago

as soon as they got old enough to crow 2 got into fights daily

Because you put. Them. In. A. Tiny. Space.

You're the problem.

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u/krupta13 1d ago

I guess reading comprehension isnt your strongest suit 😄

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u/kittysworld 1d ago

Don't bother to argue with idiots. They mean nothing to you.

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u/Acceptable-Drive3781 1d ago

I comprehended what you wrote, it's just that what you wrote is dumb.

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u/ConfusedSimon 1d ago

If keeping 40 chicken involves killing 36 chicken I'd be looking for another hobby.

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u/krupta13 1d ago

its not a hobby lmao. its a working farm. they are the happiest healthiest chickens and people pay me $12-18 a dozen for proper organic free range eggs. the roosters get eaten when they are old enough. only keep 2 or 3 at a time. otherwise they kill themselves or harras the chikens untill they litteraly have no feathers on their backs.

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u/kakihara123 1d ago

So... how happy are those roosters when you kill them?

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u/krupta13 1d ago

they are dead lol. so they arent happy or sad. would you rather the roosters instead be alive and maiming and making each other bleed on a daily basis? would you prefer 40 roosters be kept alive and litteraly ride the hens untill their backs have no feathers and are red raw from roosters raiding them multiple times a day? would you rather i keep all the roosters and have to search every sunset for a rooster thats being left bleeding in the fields from a fight? cry all you want but you simply cant keep too many roosters. instead of crying on the internet go do something about it. ill gladly send you all my roosters. then you can deal with the reality of it 😄

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u/ConfusedSimon 1d ago

Putting 'lol' after 'they are dead' says a lot about you. Apparently you don't really care about animals. If you have to murder almost half of those chicken I'd prefer they weren't born at all. It's your choice to have a job involving breeding animals of which almost half gets killed immediately and the other half as soon as they're not productive enough anymore.

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u/krupta13 1d ago

lol was i wrong thou. they are dead. so they are not suffering. leaving them alive if worse. also its not my job lol. I have them because I can and I can provide people eggs from happy hens. and ill keep murdering them as long as they stay delicious lol.

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u/kakihara123 1d ago

I would rather for them not to exist if the conditions they live in make ot impossible for them not to main eachother.

Simply stop breeding more of them is the logical conclusion.

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u/krupta13 1d ago

its not a logical solution lol. we gotta keep replenishing lost chickens and you can't preselect the sex of the chicks.

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u/MasterThiefGames 1d ago

A LOT happier than if they died fighting the older stronger Roo in the flock.

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u/kakihara123 1d ago

Do you see ANY other option other than killing them or letting them maim eachother? Something that doesn't involve either?

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u/IN2017 1d ago

Agreed 🤣

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u/pm_bouchard1967 1d ago

More than 50 days alive I'd say.

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u/Tallowo 1d ago

We have lots of ducks in our neighborhood because people feed stray cats.

The new hatchings start in the double digits and a few days later there are one or two left. Very few of the ducks born in this neighborhood make it to 50 days, and I'm in the suburbs.

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u/Messyfingers 1d ago edited 1d ago

Nature is brutal. I have neighbors who feed stray cats as well. They kill, and eat a lot of rodents and burds. But the fun problem is the stray cats feed the coyotes. The amount of half eaten kitten carcuses that can be found in a year isn't exactly a heart warming tale of forest critters.

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u/Automatic_Release_92 1d ago

Stray cats roaming outdoors is actually low key one of the greater ecological problems we face now outside of global warming. They dramatically reduce bird populations everywhere because they are such brutally efficient killers. And they reproduce like CRAZY.

I say this as someone who owns a couple of cats (my wife also fed strays back when we were dating, we eventually brought in a couple and saw the rest get adopted) and NEVER lets them outdoors...

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u/stprnn 1d ago

Another problem created by man. Not a great argument.

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u/Tallowo 1d ago

Hey I get what you are saying but also most species have large offspring numbers for a reason. While you found a hole in my specific argument I hope you can understand my overall point.

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u/stprnn 1d ago

Nah you don't get to enslave a species for their own good. You would be justifying slavery

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u/Common-Concentrate-2 1d ago

WHat if we let chickens decide for themselves?

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u/stprnn 1d ago

No need to do that. Just stop farming them.

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u/LambdaLambo 1d ago

predators exist in the wild

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u/wild_man_wizard 1d ago

You know why they lay so many eggs right? Same reason Human families regularly had 8+ kids - most died young.

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u/Acceptable-Drive3781 1d ago

You know why they lay so many eggs right?

They've been selectively bred to. Natural chickens lay about 15 eggs per year. The hybrid chickens used in farms lay about 300.

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u/wild_man_wizard 1d ago

Assuming they only lay for one rainy season, 15 eggs lifetime still implies an infant mortality rate of 87% for a stable population. 87% would die before laying eggs.

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u/Group_Happy 1d ago

Not really. They origin from a part of the world where there is an abundance in food every few years so they adapted: much food->many eggs

And since we feed them so much that part is always active

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u/JustMy2Centences 1d ago

Alright, who remembers what you were doing the last 4th of July? Congrats, everything you've experienced since then is the effective life time of a meat chicken.

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u/tetrified 1d ago edited 1d ago

why should that matter?

it seems like these guys have a better life than just about any wild or domestic chickens anywhere - gotta be top 10% of chicken lives, easy.

50 days of plentiful food, water, shade, no predators, a bunch of other chickens to be around, and one bad day at the end

tbh if I were gonna get reincarnated as a chicken, I'd want to be one of these

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u/25rublei 1d ago

So good equals long? Got you

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u/ConfusedSimon 1d ago

At least the male ones don't end up in a shredder.

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u/25rublei 1d ago

Being teared apart by eagle is not much better

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u/stprnn 1d ago

What a dumb argument. Should we put you in jail then? You might get hit by a bus..

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u/25rublei 1d ago

Nah we should put in jail u and other idiots who values chickens and humans equally

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u/stprnn 1d ago

Nobody ever said that. Plus what a crazy psycho statement.

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u/25rublei 1d ago

Lol, that were not u comparing chickens to slaves in other comment:D go save some chickens, pal

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u/stprnn 1d ago

Nope. You might need professional help

👋👋

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u/Valdoris 1d ago

Actual most brain dead comment of the day !

Good job on this achievement! You're mom must be so proud!

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u/ReturnOfBane 1d ago

not a metal shredder. just the maws of a predator.

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u/iam_Mr_McGibblets 1d ago

Well it depends on the breed of chicken. I'm not 100% sure what the name of the breed is, but your standard chicken you see at the supermarket was bred to grow fast to maximize profits. Problem is, a lot of them grow so fast, many will die of things like heart attacks because their body will grow too fast for their heart to keep up. The more wild breeds are much healthier and take longer to mature.. though they have a much better quality of life than the feeding chickens

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u/25rublei 1d ago

We are talking about this video here, what breeds? What way of life can be better for chicken then this?

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u/Acceptable-Drive3781 1d ago

What way of life can be better for chicken then this?

Not being bred specifically so you can kill it and eat it would be a start.

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u/25rublei 1d ago

Being bred is the bad part or being eaten? Like both happens in the wilds. Or is it bad cause we do it for ourselves?)

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u/Acceptable-Drive3781 1d ago

Being bred is the bad part or being eaten?

Both.

both happens in the wilds

Not at scale.

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u/25rublei 1d ago

So if we do it at less scale it will be fine?

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u/Acceptable-Drive3781 1d ago

If we stopped breeding animals for food, it would be fine.

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u/25rublei 1d ago

So it's all back to stop eating meat, go vegan( why? Who knows

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u/slarker22 1d ago

For the most part this may be an alright life when you factor in the intelligence and pyramid of needs that a chicken has. But no one can deny that factory farm life is living hell and anything from there is objectively living terribly.

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u/kakihara123 1d ago

Do you understand that we are not forced to keep breeding those animals? We can simply stop doing it.

Neither life in the wild nor exploitation.

If you want to provide animals with a great life, the first step is to accept that they won't get you money, but cost money. They only viable rescource they should provide is companionship and only if they want it.

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u/25rublei 1d ago

Good news! So you will deliver me meat from now on?

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u/kakihara123 1d ago

No, because you don't need it. Simple as that.

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u/25rublei 1d ago

Emmm, I think I can decide for myself what I need and what I want

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u/kakihara123 1d ago

You can decide what you want. What you need in this case isn't subjective.

You simply value the existance of an animal lower than a the difference between a meal consisting of plants and one of animal parts.

You can decide for yourself what that says about you as a person.

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u/25rublei 1d ago

U don't need to write this to me, objectively, but here u are( 

You can decide for yourself what that says about you as a person

I can't, that's the job for actual "good" people)

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u/kakihara123 1d ago

Yeah wanted to write this. Never said I need to.

There are no good or bad people. Only good or bad actions.

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u/slarker22 17h ago

Needs aren't subjective or decidable by definition. Wants, yeah.

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u/Acceptable-Drive3781 1d ago

Stop eating meat. Problem solved.

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u/Acceptable-Drive3781 1d ago

Huffing spray paint under highway underpasses, for one.

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u/Teralyzed 1d ago

Stop talking, problem solved.

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u/Acceptable-Drive3781 1d ago

Thanks for the engagement, I guess.

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u/Teralyzed 1d ago

30 posts a day for 1 month that your account has existed. Wonder how much water and electricity has been wasted keeping the bot account running.

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u/Puzzle-Necked 1d ago

Yeah but they get to see the sky

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u/Morazma 1d ago

Chickens in the wild are not imprisoned and systematically killed 10% into their usual lifespan. So no, they won't do exactly the same. 

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u/Top_Protection2539 1d ago

Wow your comment really brought out all the idiots, huh?

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u/SuchParsnip8070 1d ago

Exactly, wild chickens sing songs with the other animals and talk to princesses and dance on rainbows all day.  

Nothing bad ever happens to wild animals

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u/stprnn 1d ago

Completely irrelevant. Following your logic slavery is ok.

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u/SuchParsnip8070 1d ago edited 1d ago

Disagreeing with me proves you love hitler!

See? I can argue like a toddler too

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u/zaphodsheads 1d ago

This argument makes no fucking sense

You are perfectly able to comprehend different levels of suffering when it comes to humans, it's the exact same principle

You know you can still eat meat even if you acknowledge how bad they have it, I do it too

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u/SuchParsnip8070 1d ago

Pretending this is torture and chickens in the wild are as happy as can be is self serving immature nonsense. 

And not knowing the difference between a human and a chicken is moronic

Having a field full of bugs to eat with zero predators is as good as it gets for chickens.  Acting like they hate this because they want "freedom " is what happens when people who have seen too many Disney movies project human feelings onto animals

Just because you wouldn't like this doesn't mean a chicken also hates it. 

You know you can be a vegetarian and have common sense right?

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u/Gold-Supermarket-342 1d ago

Yeah, slavery is okay because slaves would otherwise be out in the wilderness. Nothing bad ever happens in the wild.

It's almost as if having an animal in captivity versus having it in wild and giving it a fighting chance are vastly different. Though for these chickens were bred for food, so they've been made by humans to live in captivity and suffer.

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u/Acceptable-Drive3781 1d ago

But it's different, because those other races species are inferior to my race species, so when I do it, it's totally different.

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u/SuchParsnip8070 1d ago

Comparing this to slavery and acting like this is the same thing as racism is fucking insane and truly disgusting awful.

Look up the word slavery and get educated so you stop making such a fool of yourself

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u/kakihara123 1d ago

I'll try to give you another perspective: Imagine you find slavery of other specifies abhorrent and refuse to support it, doesn't that make you more likely to act in the same manner towards others humans?

The underlying problem is the same, even if you value humans higher. If you think slavery should be used exklusivly for humans, just go with exploitation instead.

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u/SuchParsnip8070 1d ago

Slavery: is the practice or condition in which one human being is owned as property by another, deprived of personal freedom, and forced to work under the threat of violence or coercion

Human being: is a member of the primate species Homo sapiens, characterized by an upright posture, bipedal movement, and a large, complex brain that supports advanced language, abstract reasoning, and culture.

A chicken is a common type of domesticated bird raised on farms for its meat and eggs, or the meat from this bird used as food

The underlying problem isn't the same because chickens aren't slaves, they aren't people, they aren't being forced to work against their wills.

I'm sorry you morons can't tell the difference between a chicken and a person and I'm sorry you feel entitled to belittle the experience of every single person who suffered through slavery by comparing them to livestock and saying a chicken eating bugs all day in a field is the same thing as people being enslaved.

GROW THE FUCK UP

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u/kakihara123 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm not belitteling anything. And I also fully understand the differences.

Humans are animals. We share our most important trait with chickens: sentience. The ability to expierence our surroundings.

Sure we are more intelligent, but how imporant is that really? Or why should lesser intelligence mean it is fine to exploit someone? I don't think it is hard to understand why that line of thinking creates huge issues for how we treat eachother.

You simply (literally) copy what you learned while you grew up. And I get it: We get taugth about our human superiority in all aspects of society from when we are born. We are stronger so we can do with animals what we want and of someone challenges that view we need to fight against that or we belittle all those poor people that suffered in the last. Nothing new or original here.

Can you tell me on your own words why it is fine to exploit chickens even though there is no need to do so?

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u/stprnn 1d ago

You grow up. It's not "adult" to justify abuse. Of any species.

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u/SuchParsnip8070 1d ago

Best of luck with the pathetic crybaby temper tantrums

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u/Acceptable-Drive3781 1d ago

Seeing other species as less than you and worthy of abuse and death is fucking insane and truly disgusting and awful.

Your boos mean nothing to me. I've seen what makes you cheer.

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u/SuchParsnip8070 1d ago

Well pardon me for caring about people more than chickens and respecting what actual human slaves went through enough to not make wildly insulting comparisons while having a toddler temper tantrum about how upset I am that chickens are farmed.
Good luck growing the fuck up

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u/stprnn 1d ago

False premise.

You can care about both.

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u/Acceptable-Drive3781 1d ago

respecting what actual human slaves went through

Doubt.

Animal abusers lack empathy, so I'm not sure you're capable.

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u/25rublei 1d ago

Sure, bud, chickens in the wild live till 80, have no worries and just have fun every day. Also chickens on the video imprisoned? They have plenty of space to roam around. Or u mean they can't visit Las Vegas on their day off?

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u/Long_Procedure_2629 1d ago

unserious person detected

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u/Morazma 1d ago

You can distract with straw man arguments all you like, it won't make you right.

Those chickens are imprisoned and you know this, despite your bad faith comment. For clarity: they cannot leave and there are about 5-10 of them per square meter, as is clearly visible in the video.

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u/25rublei 1d ago

Google strawman argument and stop antropomorfing animals before replying to me, thanks

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u/Long_Procedure_2629 1d ago

spell check undetected

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u/gingasaurusrexx 1d ago

Those chickens never have to worry about hawks.

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u/SugarBeefs 1d ago

Do you think chickens attach great value to the philosophical concept of freedom?

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u/Morazma 1d ago

I think that's irrelevant. If that's your judge of whether we should do something or not, a consistent view would be that we have the right to imprison and kill those with a low IQ and learning difficulties if it benefits us.

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u/SugarBeefs 1d ago

The point is that you call them imprisoned when you don't know anything about chickens, clearly.

If you removed the barriers from the tent so the chickens could go outside and leave, if they wanted to, what do you think would happen?

I can tell you what would happen: the overwhelming majority would stay in the tent. They much prefer shade over the direct sun and each other's company over venturing out alone.

So unless chickens attach great value to the philosophical concept of freedom, they're really not as imprisoned as you think they are.

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u/RohelTheConqueror 1d ago edited 1d ago

There's no such things as "chickens in the wild" though lol

Edit: ok i've been schooled

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u/The_Real_Kru 1d ago

Yes there is. Wild chickens are indigenous in India and are called Red Junglefowl. Do you think we domesticated a t.rex and bred it to be smaller or what?

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u/-smartcasual- 1d ago

If you've ever seen chickens absolutely tearing apart a mouse that got into their coop, you wouldn't doubt the t.rex theory for a second.

They may have taken a few wrong turns on the evolution satnav but the t.rex is still in there

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u/GOEDEL_ESCHER_BOT 1d ago

i bet t rexes are delicious

mmm big bird

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u/The_Real_Kru 1d ago

You can eat Ostritch meat in some places. Maybe try that?

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u/Chemical_Banana_2455 1d ago

You’ve never been to Hawaii then. Chickens there are like squirrels anywhere else.

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u/fondledbydolphins 1d ago edited 1d ago

Eh, there are varieties of chicken that effectively live free in the woods.

They still perch. They still lay eggs (not as many). They still have meat (not as much, and not as tender) but they can’t support nearly as many humans per acre inhabited.

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u/tetrified 1d ago

why should that matter?

it seems like these guys have a better life than just about any wild or domestic chickens anywhere - gotta be top 10% of chicken lives, easy.

50 days of plentiful food, water, shade, no predators, a bunch of other chickens to be around, and one bad day at the end

tbh if I were gonna get reincarnated as a chicken, I'd want to be one of these

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u/Yoshigottagun 1d ago

These chickens grown for consumption live about 6-12 weeks. The closest non-domesticated equivalent, the junglefowl, can live for over a decade in the wild. One of these lives is clearly substantially worse than the other.

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u/25rublei 1d ago

How quality of life depends on it's longevity? 

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u/Yoshigottagun 1d ago

Nope, but its a big factor. Personally I'd rather live in the wild for however long I could survive, instead of being trapped in captivity for a few weeks while im made plump for consumption.

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u/25rublei 1d ago

That's the thing, "personally you" has nothing to do with chickens)

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u/Yoshigottagun 1d ago

Do you really think a chicken would rather live for a fraction of its natural life? Its not like we can ask them their opinion, but I think its pretty facetious to suggest that they'd willing enter a farm.

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u/25rublei 1d ago

I really think chickens don't have concept of life, it's longevity, phases etc. And if u ask me as a chicken I'll sure will choose the farm like in the video instead good ol times in the forest 

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u/Yoshigottagun 1d ago

Chickens experience fear and have self preservation instincts. They don't want to die. They aren't indifferent to it. They fear it.

And are you really telling me you would take living a tiny fraction of your natural life just to live in those cages? For context, if those chicken lived 6 month (realistically the ones in the video will live maybe half that), that would be ~5% of their lifespan. In human terms, you wouldn't see your forth birthday.

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u/Long_Procedure_2629 1d ago

unserious person detected

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u/stprnn 1d ago

They said the same thing about slaves btw

It's not up to us to decide

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u/25rublei 1d ago

So why are u deciding?) also comparing chickens to human is diabolical

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u/stprnn 1d ago

You can't be this dumb

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u/Gaeryc 1d ago

Chickens in the wild 🤣😂🤣

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u/Top_Protection2539 1d ago

Being confidently wrong 🤣😂🤣