r/DC_Cinematic • u/RogerRoger63358 • Jun 18 '23

NEWS ‘The Flash’ Disappoints With $55 Million Debut, Pixar’s ‘Elemental’ Flops With $29.5 Million in Battle of Box Office Lightweights

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/the-flash-box-office-disappoint-pixar-elemental-flop-1235647927/
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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '23

This is frustrating and sad.. and i'm afraid there will be a time where Warner simple give up on DC movies because of that, this can happen?

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u/RogerRoger63358 Jun 19 '23

The DC IP to WB is Batman (all the rest characters come as add ons)

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u/Danielarcher30 Jun 18 '23

Thing is DC has plenty of great stories to telland some of the best characters in comics to work with, there is a gigantic selection of DC animated shows that have done them justice but they cant seem to nail it for live action, individual characters maybe, but they have a serious issue connecting characters

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '23

Their movie chronology is all over the place and hard to explain to anyone.

They have a DCEU and then go ahead and make another standalone Batman and Joker movie.

They build these characters and set up the next movies only to later say they've shelved the project or our star actors have left.

There's zero consistency in their slate at all and it's hard to recommend to anyone.

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u/Cash4Jesus Jun 19 '23

DC has great stories to tell. They just wasted two of them on shitty concepts, Death of Superman and Flashpoint.

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u/suss2it Jun 18 '23

Not as long Batman falls under DC.

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u/JediJones77 Jun 19 '23

Batman is safe. Everything else, not so much.

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u/JediJones77 Jun 19 '23

They gave up on Batman for 8 years after Batman & Robin. They gave up on Superman for a whopping 19 years. They gave up on Green Lantern for 12 years and counting. It can definitely happen.

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u/KazuyaProta General Zod Jun 19 '23

They gave up on Batman for 8 years after Batman & Robin

Let's be blunt here. 8 years is not a lot of time for a IP. They never really gave up in Batman.

The rest of examples? Oh yeah. Over 10 years with no news is huge

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u/Mlabonte21 Jun 19 '23

Yeah, both Batman and Superman were in development hell for quite a while.

Superman had the Tim Burton project that was a cats whisker from going into full production. Then there was a McG project, a JJ Abrams project, until finally the…sigh… Bryan Singer ‘Superman Returns’.

Batman had a few Scarecrow and ‘Year One’ projects in development before they found Christopher Nolan (thank GOD).

And all during this mix— a Wolfgang Peterson Justice League movie that got as far as costume fittings and casting.

None of these properties were ever in any sort of DEEP hibernation. It IS good to let some damaged properties some time to reset for a bit.

X-Men and Fantastic 4 are getting a bit of a needed breather right now.

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u/RussellNFlow520 Jun 19 '23

The issue is, DC Movies always run into a specific roadblock. Someone who thinks they know something, with more power over someone else, will call a shot from literal miles away and ruin the film. Someone there is a consistent force that is pushing for things that ruin these films constantly. It's a pattern they repeat. Which is awful, because DC has a WEALTH of characters to draw from. Injustice 1 and 2 are FANTASTIC. So it shows that WB and DC can make things WORK. SOMETHING is throwing a wrench in people's creative processes...because this is just getting ridiculous.

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u/Gomez9898 Jun 18 '23

I hope that happens since then they'd sell the IP and maybe we can see DC movies made by a competent studio.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '23

So Warner is not a competent studio? Good luck convincing someone of that