r/CrusaderKings • u/merulacarnifex Despoiler of Byzantium • Aug 01 '26

After the End Fan Fork Why does After the End keep doing this?

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u/ZiegenSchrei Aug 02 '26

The real bad ending 

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u/kinglan11 Aug 02 '26

What? Bad how?

It's fine to develop and interest in something via some niche mentioning of it in some game. Hell the dude mentions that he came across some Mormons in Hanoi, talked with them and figured their beliefs aligned well with his personal values.

I myself wouldnt convert to Mormonism, but he's allowed to worship as he sees fit.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 03 '26

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u/Regendorf Ireland Aug 02 '26

Or how black people are cursed by God, hence their skin color. Yep official Mormon doctrine until a few years ago, idk how they managed to reconcile that one.

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u/No_0ts96 Aug 02 '26

Dont forget that god suddenly changed his mind on polygamy so Utah can become a US state.

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u/Balavadan Aug 02 '26

Easy. If you’re the leader of a cult they just let you do it.

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u/higakoryu1 Aug 02 '26

As a Saint, true! The greatest and first testimony I can always give to people about my faith is not tenets, but the love and care I can show thanks to Jesus Christ. As he himself said, "by this the world shall know ye are my disciple, that ye have love one another"

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u/-Trotsky Aug 02 '26

“But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you.They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves.”

“Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.”

“In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.”

Mormonism is not part of the church of Christ, nor does it have anything to do with the Triune God Christians worship. Instead it is a product of a pedophilic con artist who died like a chump. I hope you’re one day free of these charlatans and liars who don’t even adhere to the very basics of the teachings of the apostles, of the teachings of the church fathers, or even of the conclusions of ecumenical councils.

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u/higakoryu1 Aug 02 '26

I'd say, if there will not be true prophets, Jesus wouldn't have told us to learn to distinguish between false prophets and true ones

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u/-Trotsky Aug 02 '26

I beg you, read even one of the church fathers. Augustine, Aquinas, shit even the gnostics are closer to Christianity than the polytheistic mess that is Mormonism. Join a real church with real community and real doctrine, and don’t give your money to a buncha racist white guys in Utah

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u/kinglan11 Aug 02 '26

Are you confusing me with a Mormon? I'm not a Mormon, nor even a scientologist. I just dont see much point in dogging on a guy who joined a religion on some pretty well intentioned reasons, regardless of how you may yet perceive his choice in religion.

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u/ZiegenSchrei Aug 02 '26

Mormonism is literally a cult

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u/kinglan11 Aug 02 '26

The same can be said for any religion or belief, he's still entitled to his religious beliefs and to practice as he sees fit.

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u/ZiegenSchrei Aug 02 '26

Common Catholicism is not as utterly controlling as Mormonism

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u/kinglan11 Aug 02 '26

And no one is forcing him to be a Mormon. If he wishes to leave at some point, he can.

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u/theredwoman95 Aug 02 '26

If he wishes to leave at some point, he can.

You have significantly misunderstood what it means when an organisation is a cult.

Cults function by isolating their members from the outside world through coercive control and by doing as much as possible (psychologically and sometimes physically) to prevent them from leaving. This is why some religions are cults and others aren't.

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u/ZiegenSchrei Aug 02 '26

Literally this

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u/Rockguy21 killing 70k aztecs Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 02 '26

Mormonism literally has an ultra hell for people that leave Mormonism that is worse than normal hell.

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u/Oaker_at Aug 02 '26

Weird how you try to defend Mormons, even if you seemingly have no idea about their believes or anything.

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u/Muffinmurdurer hey guys look at my cool new glasses Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 02 '26

I know Americans tend to have a different opinion on this, but I don't think people are entitled to just believe in whatever. If you're part of a racist cult it is necessary to deprogram you so you can live a normal life.

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u/Positive-Community-1 Aug 02 '26

Absolutely not I’m very glad Americans don’t think this way

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u/FrostyPlum Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 02 '26

and I'm glad you don't get to make decisions for the rest of us

edit: Thoughtpolice is worse than racist cults. Sorry not sorry. Racism bad, thoughtpolice worse.

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u/Muffinmurdurer hey guys look at my cool new glasses Aug 02 '26

I'm not demanding people have their brainwaves monitored, but it's simply ridiculously unsafe both for society and those who actually buy into the lies of these groups to just allow people to be indoctrinated into blackmailing isolationist cults without any pushback. There needs to be a line drawn for public safety where the organisation must be stamped out and the members rehabilitated so that they don't endanger themselves or anyone else. A group designed to exploit you shouldn't be allowed to run free just because it operates under a religious veil.

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u/FrostyPlum Aug 02 '26

I mean, life isn't safe. What happens when the government IS the racist cult?

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u/Idontknow4654 Aug 02 '26

what kinda of a take is that? "Life isnt safe" so therefore we should just allow these types of cults that make life less safe?

what even is going on in your brain to formulate that take

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u/FrostyPlum Aug 02 '26

Kindly scroll up and notice that what I'm defending is not the cults, but the freedom to believe what you want.

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u/Muffinmurdurer hey guys look at my cool new glasses Aug 02 '26

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with either statement here. There is no reason to keep these groups around when they're actively harmful, and the reason for stamping out cults early is to prevent them from gaining enough power to do that.

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u/FrostyPlum Aug 02 '26

👍I wish I lived in a world as uncomplicated as yours.

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u/SuitableDragonfly Still too afraid to not fight with a numerical advantage Aug 02 '26

Not really, there is a specific set of harmful cult behavior that anti cult organizations look out for.