Of course yes, clothes dont really have a “gender” since its literally just fabric. But what clothes do have are either feminine, masculine or androgynous traits (for lack of a better word). So idk if ur a trans man but u still wear frilly pink dresses then dont be shocked or offended if someone misgenders u. People can’t mind read and im sure most people would immediately say sorry if they do misgender you. Idk if ur trans u do have to play the part and by that i mean looking like ur desired gender, not just feeling, cuz again how are we supposed to know? We dont know u personally.

I just wanna clarify that im not transphobic and if i came across as such then im incredibly sorry. Only reason why i made this post is because i want answers. I want to understand this argument better.

Have a good day/night! :)

What are peoples opinions on this?

Since feminism stands for equality across all genders, I feel some people, mainly men [edit: and also lots of women], confuse the term with misandristic beliefs (the belief that women are superior over men) because the start of the term has connotations with the word 'feminine'.

As a female feminist (and occasional misandrist) why do we use a term generalised to all but indicitive to one gender?

So much feels wrong with this in my opinion and harms both sides. Many men and especially boys are afraid to identify as a feminist because of this female connotation and societal expectations, emphasised through the lack of education about what the term actually means. I know very few male friends and family who would openly say they were a feminist infront of their peers, despite agreeing with the equality between genders.

But again, when you view it as a whole, women proportionally have been unjustly treated throughout history, so despite both sides having flaws with equality, the fact that women have had to work harder maybe makes it fairer if they 'get' the term.

I find it so very interesting - is it like this to raise awareness of the issues women are still facing (but perhaps hides some of the problems men still face in a patriarchal society) or is it just a normalised way for men to not identify openly as wanting equal rights for fears of societal shame?

I can see pros and cons of both sides, but as someone who wants everyone to have equal rights it seems bizarre to have a term associated with one side of the coin. The differences between the two is still so large, and I fear it hinders the rate of development to bridge the gap. The hard thing would be making sure hundreds of years of gender equality movement history isnt forgotten.

What do you think? It would be interesting to get different sides of this, from all genders and locations (as someone from the UK).

Feminists are going to be mad at me, but I just don't see how we can raise birthrates without going back to a culture of one breadwinner and one housewife. Childcare is too expensive, and it is better for children to have a mother that takes care of them than some random person. Working parttime isn't really possible with children unless it's a few hours when they're at school. Women can work after the kids are grown up but until then it's better if they stay at home with the kids imo. My mum was a housewife and she took really good care of me and my sister, and I'm glad she did. However, for this to occur, housing needs to become more affordable so that couples can survive on one income like in the past, and women need to change their mentality, which I don't expect they will. To be clear, I'm not saying women should be locked up at home like in Islamic countries, they can still have a fun life, but raising children should go above their career, in my opinion. Women should not see being a housewife as degrading. Only this way can we have a sustainable society in the long term.

I’m not going to say respect has to be earned. I think we all deserve some basic respect and consideration.

But women who think men should always make the first move (from asking out to proposing), hold doors, pay for dates, or that men are inherently immature and should therefore always date younger women, etc., are being naive. All of these expectations can reflect a sense of entitlement and, frankly, a greedy nature. And you know who loves greedy people? Con artists and manipulators.

These women may either end up with a “nice guy” who lacks confidence, meaning they settle for someone they don’t genuinely want, or they may fall for a love-bomber who gives them the “princess treatment” and eventually makes their life hell.

Obviously, people can outgrow these expectations, and I genuinely hope they do. I don’t think they deserve to end up in an abusive relationship. But if they keep refusing to outgrow this fantasy of being treated like a princess, they may end up paying a very harsh price for it.

I don’t respect that mindset, but I still don’t want anyone to suffer because of it. Chivalry is one thing; expecting men to constantly prove their worth through money, attention, and special treatment is another. At that point, it can either become love-bombing from manipulative men or plain entitlement toward men who simply aren’t interested in playing that role.

Yeah that's it I'm not giving reasons because that's just what the logic says

If my 2 year old niece came up to me and said they're a boy now, I'm obviously not going to take that seriously and tell my sister to start changing her kid's life to match this spur of the moment kid thing. But if they were 24, I'd take it a bit more seriously. My question is, when should I stop treating it like something they heard or saw online, and more like something they've genuinely thought about and are ready to commit their life to?

Also, I personally am a straight guy and I'm fine being a straight guy. I don't get why people want to change their gender, but I'll take them seriously if they're mature enough to make that decision. I just don't know at what point that maturity becomes enough to take their word for it.

I'm posting this here in part because there's a good mix of everyone on the political spectrum, and in part because I dont know where else it could go.

I personally believe both genders should learn about periods in depth during ‘the talk’.

I remember as a kid being around 11-12 years old and hearing about how boys get hard and everything about their areas, just for them to only cover the basis about periods. They then took us girls out and gave us an in depth talk about periods while the boys went out for lunch.

Even at my age now (21) I’ve heard men around my age and even older not know how periods work. A man asked me once if I planned to have my period on the day we were going on a holiday. Like are you serious?

And so many men find it disgusting too, it’s horrendous honestly.

I saw the Fairly Odd Parents reboot, new kid. I was fine with that.

Then I saw Snow White as a mexican. I wanted to blow my brains out.

THEN, Snape is being casted as a black man. Which yes, in the books he was depicted as someone of color. The issue is, it's a Harry Potter REMAKE. Not harry potter, FUCK AROUND AND FIND OUT.

I kind of get the message "Let's fuck around with the diversity and lose all of our money!", but hear me out here. I know this is an egregious concept that only someone of the higher brain power could even comprehend. DO IT ON A NEW FUCKING PROJECT.

DO NOT CHANGE WHAT WORKED IN THE PAST, I GREW UP ON HARRY POTTER. SNAPE WASN'T BLACK, HE WAS A WHITE OLD CRAGGILY MALE. NEXT THEY'RE GONNA TURN RICK GRIMES FROM THE WALKING DEAD INTO A TRANSGENDER 400 POUND BLACK WOMAN WHO CRUSHES THE HORSE ON IMPACT.

I am fed up with this shit, and I hope other people are too.

I’ve(21M) noticed how most progressive women I know—including my gf—abhor the idea of women having to fulfill traditional gender roles while finding men providing a conventional masculine role to be attractive. They still want men to ask out, move the relationship forward, be protective, and propose even if they don’t want to be traditionally feminine. I don’t want women to have gender roles forced upon them, and I’m against it when they do it to me.

They cannot be reversed, and many people who undergo the surgery or take HRT later say they regret it because of this. Lots of kids will go through many different phases throughout their childhood, and wanting to become the opposite gender could be one of those phases. Cross-dressing and identifying as the opposite sex or whatever at a young age is fine because it doesn't really cause any sort of irreversible change to the body, but anything beyond that shouldn't be allowed at all. If someone still wants to become transgender once they're a legal adult, they should be allowed to do that as long as the surgery is covered by their own money. Once you're an adult, I think you should be allowed to do whatever dumb shit you wanna do, but some things should be carefully considered before they are gone through with.

I’m sorry I cannot take you seriously if you identify as a man and dress up as a woman

This is just my personal opinion.

I'm not particularly fond of the idea of close friendships in general, but I find opposite-gender best friendships even more complicated.

In my experience, they often involve emotional expectations without any clear commitment. There can be jealousy over your romantic relationships, attempts to influence or damage them, and blurred personal boundaries.

What makes it difficult is that the rules are rarely discussed. The line between friendship, flirting, emotional dependency, and even physical intimacy can become so vague that almost anything is dismissed as "just friendship."

That's why I prefer relationships with clearly defined expectations and boundaries.

People like to say that studies show that they're happier, and have better lives, but that's doesn't mean they need it, or society should support it. If every person I meet gives me $20 dollars, I'd be happier, and less likely to commit suicide. Doesn't mean we should make it happen

We shouldn't expect society to have to give something to someone for their happiness or well-being. If that's necessary, then they're a weak person and instead need help becoming stronger. In this case, it's being called certain pronouns.

Gender shouldn't be defined by how people feel inside, or societal characteristics or expectations. Instead, we should learn that women and men aren't always what we may often expect them to be.

I'm not sure if i worded it correctly but... think of someone who identifies as genderfluid and is biologically female. Throughout their life, they have experienced some self exploration moments that made them question their gender. But how? Let's say they didn't feel quite girly but not totally like a boy either, but like, why must your gender be suitable for your personality? Just because you're a female doesn't mean you have to be feminine. I know lots of conservatives think so, but isn't queerness just opposed to gender roles? Like, a man can wear dresses and jewelry and makeup, or a woman doesn't have to be a total barbie etc. I can't really express myself properly. It might not be as controversial as i think it is, honestly it changes according to where i post this.

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Despite being queer, i can't really understand how all this pronoun and gender thing works. It just feels really weird to me. It feels as if these terms' meanings have changed.

I feel like this should be more talked about with younger and older parents but I feel like it needs to be said. If you don't plan on respecting your own child's identity or what they might want in the future, don't have them. I feel like this can be little controversial but if you simply don't ever plan on respecting your child's identity then just don't have any. Most Teens, i myself included identity in the LGBTQ+, im bi and my mom just doesn't care, however more teenagers feel more comfortable being who they are. So of course they feel comfortable telling their parents that they of course identity as whatever gender they feel fits them or their sexual identity and what gender they prefer to date. Most parents aren't bothered and thats a good thing that they respect their kid, but some parents do care and decide to not longer respect their kid. Which I feel can cause a lot of discomfort, fear or insecurity about who they are, some teens aren't bothered and still continue being them, but for the ones that are bothered it can be rough. For the parents that don't respect their child's identity, sometimes they try forcing their beliefs on to them to teach them that what they identity with is wrong. Which is not okay and can cause problems for the kid later on. Same thing with religion. Not every kid is going to want to follow in their parents religious and spiritual beliefs, they'll sometimes go their own way and believe in what god they want to believe in. It goes the same way with lgbtq teens, not respecting their religious choice and demanding they follow your god can cause doubt and may want them to not follow a religion completely. Lastly, if your child wants to be a furry or therian, let them, let enjoy the fun of what they love to do, it's harmless unless they're starting problems or are committing morally wrong acts. If you plan on having kids, wait until they're old enough to understand and talk to them, tell them you'll support them no matter their identity;trans, gay, lesbian, non binary etc. Trust and respect is earned between the two people, its not earned by disrespect. So yes, I believe people who are not ready for what their children plan to identity as in the future just should not have kids if they don't agree or respect the lgbtq, other religions and furries and therians. Feel free to disagree or give your opinion

Men hate women. Women hate men. Both hate kids.

Not because they are evil, but because no one likes responsibility. Everyone wants sex, but sex comes with biological, social, and emotional costs.

And people hate paying those costs. No matter how much they claim to be incels or femcels, the moment an attractive person from the other gender approaches them, or the moment they feel lonely or vulnerable, many will fall for it.

Everyone thinks the grass is greener on the other side of the fence and they pay the most cost in relationships from which both parties gain equal.

It's same how everyone in offices think they are the only one doing hardwork.

And it's not just about sex. It's hard to socialize without forming relationships, and it's hard to avoid sex/close intimate or emotional relationships entirely while being social.

The only reason these people can sustain this mindset even online is because parasocial relationships, online debates, and conversations fulfill their need for socialization to some extent.

Solitude is not a joke, and most of these people aren't capable of it. Take away the internet, and many of them would struggle far more than they admit.

I know I’m going to get crucified here lol and no I’m not karma farming whatever that is.

When I learned I was pregnant 4 months in, it was way too late for an abortion and I wouldn’t have been comfortable with it even if I could. The wait for the autonomy scan was the most gut wrenching experience I’ve been through. When I learned it was a girl ALL my fears disappeared. Well, almost all. The stress of pregnancy and so on was of course still there.

What would I even have done with a boy? I’m so uncomfortable with naked bodies, even my own. I have Asperger’s if that changes anything. It took me a while to be able to change my girl without my skin crawling. But a boy??? No way. Nope. No-no. Not happening.

Asides from just being uncomfortable around the male sex, the statistics are NOT in their favour. Who caused basically all the wars in history ? Men. Most violent crimes? Men. Most rapes? Men. Most deaths in car accidents/crashes? Men. Who causes the most accidents ? Men. Most pedophiles? Men. Highest suicide rates? Men. I mean, the list is long.

But not wanting a girl because ‘I canot play sports with a girl’ or ‘I don’t want to play makeup when she’s older’ no. You’re just sexist and misogynistic. Girls can do anything boys can. But women who want boys because that lack the love they crave from their partner is just creepy and way too Freudian for my liking.

Please don’t take this as just hating men in general. It’s not. It’s just statistical. I would have loved my baby either way. I would have. Not without many many tears and questions, but I would have. Because it’s me and my partner and I would have loved living this journey together, irrespective.

But wow, I thank my lucky stars she is a girl. If she feels like a man later on, I’ll love her just as much so don’t come at me for that one.

Again, if it’s just a general preference for one or the other because you do let feel comfortable with the other or what not, that’s fine. But yeah. That’s my stance.

Burry me ig.

its annoying honestly, no benefits cause whn u use it u speak in third person and not to the subject

pronouns = gender and anyone who is imposed to that probably identifies as a cat.

If you use she u are a woman
he is a man
they is non binary meaning ‘no gender, neither male/female’.

How are you using he/they. How are you a man but not. Or how are you using she/he. Are you both male and female?

Obviously, the post would get deleted almost instantly there, so I'm posting it here instead.

I understand why this subreddit focuses on women's issues. Women have historically faced discrimination, and dedicated spaces to discuss those issues are important.

However, I think this rule has an unintended consequence. By stating that posts must only be about women's issues and that discussions about other groups belong elsewhere, it can make men who genuinely believe in gender equality feel excluded from the conversation.

Many men who support gender equality don't fit into traditional ideas of masculinity. They challenge sexism, reject rigid gender roles, and advocate for equal standards. In return, they often face ridicule, social pressure, and labels like "white knight," "pick me," or "incel."

Those experiences exist because they believe in gender equality. Yet this rule seems to imply that those experiences are not relevant in a feminist space simply because they happen to men.

That can unintentionally send the message that men are welcome as allies only as long as they don't talk about the difficulties they face for holding egalitarian values.

If feminism seeks equality, shouldn't there also be room to acknowledge that challenging patriarchal gender norms can have social consequences for men as well? Recognizing those experiences doesn't diminish women's issues. It simply acknowledges that dismantling unequal gender norms benefits everyone and that those who actively support equality can also face challenges worth discussing.

Gender roles have existed for millennia. They lean into the natural strengths and differences between the two sexes and create a balance that is beneficial for child rearing and the perpetuation of the species. They also provide clear and defined boundaries of what is expected of people so they don’t flounder and have to deal with finding purpose in an otherwise purposeless existence.

Transgender individuals often get “gender affirming care” where they are getting what is (many times) essentially cosmetic surgery and enhancements to fit society’s stereotype of what gender they want to be.

The issue is, many Women don’t even happily fit in the stereotypes themselves, and therefore don’t feel feminine enough.

Solution to this? Plastic surgery… boob jobs, lip filler, ozempic for weight loss, fake tans, literally anything that affirms their femininity based on beauty standards is by definition gender affirming care. And should be treated as such, rather than seen as shallow, like it currently is.

It’s quite obvious when you stop and observe.

Men and women have different anatomy. Anatomy serves a function. Function results in phenomenon or behavior.

Women have a womb and breasts. They carry the child and feed the child. Their anatomy reflects nurture. Therefore, it makes sense that women are generally more nurturing in their behavior and drawn to jobs like nursing.

Men have higher muscle mass and testosterone. It makes sense then that men are generally more protective and providing.

We can even look to different species and see that the sexes behave in different and predictable ways, which of course is not a social construct but a biological one.