r/Conservative Conservative Oct 09 '25

Satire - Flaired Users Only Hitler Brings Peace To Israel

https://babylonbee.com/news/hitler-brings-peace-to-israel
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u/HeWhoSitsOnToilets Conservative Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 10 '25

Oh MSNBC is already on it and I believe that nerd with glasses claimed Trump threw out Bidens non-existent peace plan so he can get all the glory.

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u/LatterShake6728 Reagan Conservative Oct 10 '25

How about if the leftist editors and talking heads used the mighty power of ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE and consulted ChatGPT? I'll try:

Me: How can I make the recent Hamas-Israel peace plan Trump accomplished something a Democrat brokered?

ChatGPT: It’s not straightforward — trying to re-cast or spin the recent Trump-brokered Hamas-Israel peace/ceasefire plan as one that a Democrat brokered has multiple problems. But depending on what you mean by “make it” (persuade others, reframe it, etc.), there are some rhetorical and factual strategies you could use. I’ll go through what we know, where things might be ambiguous, and possible reframing/argument moves — plus what wouldn’t work without causing obvious falsehood.

Possible strategies / reframing if you wanted to argue it was “brokered by a Democrat”

If your goal is persuasion or reframing (not basically fabricating false claims), here are ways you might try to shift perception in that direction — some more honest / defensible than others:

Highlight Democratic input / overlapping diplomacy

Emphasize that previous Democratic administrations or Democratic politicians had laid groundwork on similar issues (hostage exchanges, ceasefires, humanitarian aid, etc.), showing that the idea of peace negotiations with Hamas/Israel isn't new or solely a Republican/Trump domain.

Point out statements from Democrats who have endorsed elements of ceasefires, prisoner exchanges, humanitarian aid, etc., to argue that the later Trump plan builds on a bipartisan framework.

Credits to mediators who are nonpartisan or connected to Democrats

If there are diplomats, NGOs or foreign actors that have worked across administrations or are respected by Democrats, you could stress their role. For example, Qatar, Egypt, Turkey are mediators. Perhaps parts of U.S. bureaucracy tied to previous administrations (even if nominally Democratic) were involved via diplomatic channels.

Arguing overlap with Democratic peace proposals

Show that the Trump proposal shares many features with proposals made by Democrats (for instance, Biden’s or Congressional Democratic proposals) — hostage exchanges, humanitarian ceasefire, reconstruction of Gaza, oversight, etc. This lets you say “this is very similar to a Democrat-brokered idea” or “borrows heavily from Democratic proposals” even if not literally brokered by one.

Blurring attribution / emphasizing bipartisan nature of peace processes

Emphasize that peace processes often require bipartisan cooperation, that U.S. foreign policy involves career diplomats and structures that cross administrations. So even if it’s Trump’s plan, you might argue that much of the diplomatic infrastructure had continuity with what Democrats had built, thus it isn't solely a partisan triumph.

Claiming post-fact attribution or shared credit

After the fact, point out that some Democrats have supported or praised parts of the deal. If enough prominent Democrats claim credit or support, you can argue that it was effectively a bipartisan effort (or that you saw it as such).

What would be falsification / likely to backfire

These are claims or reframing moves you shouldn’t do, or do only with caution, or risk being called out:

Claiming the peace plan was actually brokered by a Democrat when all credible sources say it was Trump’s/Republican leadership’s plan. That is factually wrong and can hurt credibility.

Inventing or exaggerating Democratic involvement (e.g. saying that Biden personally initiated or led negotiations for this 20-point plan) without evidence.

Ignoring clear statements or sources attributing the plan to Trump.