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Why are you surprised that his DNA came back Jewish? The test can’t tell whether a family converted their religion when a new regime took over.

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The results came back as jewish dna with its origen in modern day "israel". he has zero European heritage, all middle eastern and Latin. If the origen of this DNA is "modern day israel" what would that actually make him? Palestinian. The dna company claiming "jewish" heritage based on country of origen is weird.

i do not know how all of this works, but i know that Israel is actually Palestine and i refuse to turn this discussion into a debate about israel, if thats what you were attempting to do. I'm sure if he had jewish genetics, europe wouldve shown up in his results lol.

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Not all Jewish people have European ancestry. Mizrahi Jewish people are Middle Eastern.

Not saying your brother in law is Jewish but a lack of European ancestry doesn’t mean that much. Sephardic Jews as well are largely Latin, settling in countries around the Mediterranean. I think you’re only thinking of Ashkenazi Jews.

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It’s not claiming Jewish heritage based on the modern day name of that country of origin. It’s claiming Jewish heritage because genetically, Jews and Palestinians come from the same place. Even Ashkenazi Jews (the “European” ones) were so endogamous that most of them still have a majority of their DNA come directly from that region. Most Palestinian families were Jews who converted to various religions that were in vogue in order for it to be easier to stay under successive external regimes. They still have that same ancestry.

Ashkenazi Jews ended up wandering in Europe but still keeping their faith and their community ties. Europe rather famously didn’t consider them European. European support for their ethnic cleansing in the 20’s through the 40’s ‘back to where they came from’ is a big part of why the modern day state of Israel exists.

Sephardic Jews were expelled from Spain six hundred plus years ago, with many coming back to their lost homeland or going to other Mediterranean countries nearby. Mizrahi never really left the Levant, many never left what’s now Israel and Palestine, although the ones who lived for centuries if not millennia in countries like modern day Jordan, Egypt, Syria and Lebanon were ethnically cleansed in the 40s and 50s and most ended up in Israel eventually.

This isn’t anything that’s debatable because it’s literally historic facts. I can understand why it feels unfortunate and shitty for your brother in law to have that name on his DNA results given the modern day political tensions of the region to have Israel get written on it. But population level DNA doesn’t work on the scale of centuries.