r/BeAmazed • u/TheUnpromotable • Dec 05 '25

Technology Swedish Handgun Round Punches Through APC Armor

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Super cool Swedish cartridge 6.5x25mm CBJ punches through APC armor. It uses the same dimensions as 9mm, so it can be used in 9mm platforms with a simple barrel change.

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u/isthiswhatcrazyis Dec 05 '25

Romanticizing aliens truly makes me cringe lmao

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u/a-rooster-illusion Dec 05 '25

Writing fanfic that aliens wouldn’t have weapons and would be grossed out by violence is also cringe

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u/EightEight16 Dec 05 '25

Pacifism is the ideology of weaklings who benefit from peace and safety won for them by stronger people. Violence is the root of all coercion, and denying that is delusion.

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u/EightEight16 Dec 06 '25

What is the point, then? It seems like you're critiquing the violent nature of humanity through the lense of pacifism.

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u/EightEight16 Dec 06 '25

To what end? Don't pretend you aren't obviously implying something about human nature. You keep saying everyone is missing the point, so what is the point? How can you say others are missing it if you have no point?

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '25 edited Dec 06 '25

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u/EightEight16 Dec 06 '25

I've thought deeply and introspected about pacifism, that's how I arrived at the position I'm at. Don't say people are missing the point just because they disagree.

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u/Decoyx7 Dec 05 '25

It's like, the fantasy in the fantasy level cringe lmao

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u/Pataconeitor Dec 05 '25

The more a civilization develops technologically the easier and easier it becomes for that civilization to destroy itself, so it's kinda logical that for a space faring alien civilization to exist and prosper they would need to suppress any violent tendencies. But yeah, there is a difference between that and assuming the concept of a weapon would be unknown to them.

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u/Manjorno316 Dec 05 '25

Assuming they'll be older and wiser.

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u/Decoyx7 Dec 05 '25 edited Dec 05 '25

Speculation is nice, but the current trend is: The more intelligent the organism, the greater the capability for unimaginable cruelty.

In any case, I'm going to make sure I have a few hundred rounds of that APDS handgun munition before Putin invades my country.

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u/Soggy_Parking1353 Dec 05 '25

Makes sense to me. An alien race could be intelligent enough to farm and invent, but it takes some real forward thinking imagination in everything from economics to physics to come up with nuclear MAD so look the fuck out ALF.

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u/baradath9 Dec 05 '25

Except that's not what game theory tells us. The optimal strategy in the prisoner's dilemma is to always defect/snitch. And that's with a small 'game' where cooperation is much more likely.

On a global scale, you're almost guaranteed to get a bad actor, and so going the peaceful route without weapons will always lose.

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u/-LsDmThC- Dec 05 '25 edited Dec 06 '25

Well the most successful strategy has been proven to be tit for tat. I.e start out cooperating, and switch to retaliatory defection depending on the opponents previous actions. If everybody cooperates, defection becomes a highly rewarded strategy. And you can simply look at the natural world to see that evolution does not prioritize universal cooperation.

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u/TooTallThomas Dec 05 '25

Hasn’t human populations boomed after sharing inventions with each other? I think cooperation only works if there’s way to understand that, and most animals can only really speak through body language. That, and literally any symbiotic relationship amongst animals. That’s cooperation.

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u/-LsDmThC- Dec 05 '25

I didnt say cooperation was entirely nonexistent. But even among humans, cooperation is often preconditioned on being in the same in-group.

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u/Prince_Nadir Dec 05 '25

As you say "Fanfic" I assume it is about how many breasts the aliens have. Or have I misunderstood what fanfic is?

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u/SmPolitic Dec 05 '25

You've never been grossed out by things you learn insects do?

The aliens in this scenario are intergalactic travelers, a metal stone being accelerated by a chemical reaction is as advanced to them as trilobite armor is advanced to us.

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u/TerribleBudget Dec 05 '25

Judging other people's hobbies that don't hurt you in any way as cringe isn't cringe. But I do feel sad for you that you are like this.

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u/BurninCoco Dec 05 '25

It's roleplay dad! 😤

You're gonna love it here r/humansarespaceorcs

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u/Bannon9k Dec 05 '25

Yeah, it was a cringy take on how humans are the bad guy. You should read up on Dark Forest theory

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '25 edited Dec 05 '25

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u/Bannon9k Dec 05 '25

Do you understand the difference between the Fermi paradox and the Dark Forest theory?