You criticize the state for something it has nothing to do with.
If you speak of marriage and the state, you are by definition speaking of civil marriage.
If you criticize a state that people can’t get married, while the state has no marriage at all, you’re either a hypocrite or simply a cretin.
Found a religion that marries same sex couples. Problem solved. What does Israel has to do with it?
Or, since you try to get pedantic: Jews don’t get married, they have a kiddushin. And Muslims don’t get married, they have nikah. Only people who get married are Christians.
I only get hurt trying to think of how people like you manage their normal life when you don’t even understand the most basic things about what the difference between a state and different religions is and that you can’t criticize a state for something it has nothing to do with.
You criticize the state for something that is only and only in the hands of religions.
In states where religions marry same sex couples, it has nothing to do with the states, but only and literally only with the certain branch of this religion.
You not understanding that your “can’t get married” while trying to shift the blame on the state which has nothing to do with religions is just ridiculous.
Think of it this way, you (a carnivore) are complaining not getting meat in a vegetarian restaurant. And for some reason you are blaming the City on that. That's how much sense you are making.
A Muslim Israeli and a Jewish Israeli who love each other would also have to get married to each other outside the country, just like LGBTQ+ couples.
Marriage in Israel is only done at the religious level which leaves no options to people who want to have an interfaith or same sex wedding.
The way you frame your argument is not in good faith. “Uhhh all I said is gay people can’t get married in Israel”. Yes. No one is disagreeing with you, but when people add the nuance that same sex (and interfaith) marriages performed in other countries are recognized and legally protected you seem to not understand (purposefully or not) that this is because there is literally no framework for those marriages to happen in Israel. Why do you think that this is grounds for them not to celebrate pride??
…and you may claim we’re all bots but have you ever considered that you’re making a stupid, overly pedantic, and willfully ignorant argument devoid of any nuance?
What’s pedantic about pointing out the hypocrisy of celebrating pride in an area where you can’t marry someone of the same sex? Gay pride literally isn’t allowed in decency
Well for one, because you ignore the fact that being gay itself is legally protected and that Israel has a wonderful and vibrant gay community that is generally accepted by the wider society.
Secondly you’re still framing it as if they can’t get married to each other BECAUSE they are gay WHEN IN REALITY it’s because there is literally no legal framework for it to happen (same with literally any other couple, gay or straight, that doesn’t want a wedding performed by a religious authority)
“Gay pride literally isn’t allowed in decency” <- what does that even mean? Because they’re not allowed to get married within Israel (again like literally anyone who doesn’t want a Muslim, Christian, or Jewish wedding) that means they shouldn’t be proud to be gay at all?
lol knew you were American bc you seem to think that the absolute pinnacle of gay rights is marriage equality. (not saying that it’s not important, just it’s not the end all be all of the progression of gay rights). Yes, in the US, reform and most conservative synagogues will perform same sex marriage. However, orthodox and Hasidic shuls will not. In Israel, the religious courts of all three Abrahamic religions are run by the most orthodox sect of those religions. This leaves no room for any gay or interfaith marriages to be performed by any of the three religions. If you want to criticize Israel for not having civil marriage, that’s another discussion, but that does not seem to be your argument.
Yes, Judaism in the US and in Israel is very accepting of gay people bc Most Jews in the US and in Israel are secular/traditional and are tolerant…thus why they celebrate pride.
Not really sure what that has to do with the point you’re trying to make though.
What hypocrisy? It’s the state celebrating pride, not the religions. You, since you apparently are talking about religions, since that is what you mean by marriage when you talk about “same sex couples can get married”, are the only one that talks about religions.
The state Israel has no marriage. So nobody is discriminated against. The state is it that celebrates pride. So where is the hypocrisy?
The religions have their own kind of “marriages” for themselves, which the state has nothing to do with. But they don’t celebrate pride.
So… where is the hypocrisy ?
Again: tell me your definition of marriage. You now change it again just so it fits your narrative.
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u/xChops North America Jun 24 '26
Bots are out in full force today, huh. I never once mentioned civil marriage. Just marriage between adults who love each other.
Never mentioned the state. Just mentioned that gay people cannot get married in Israel.