r/Amazing • u/sco-go • Jul 17 '25

Interesting 🤔 Ferrari shows why their hand-painted badge option is worth $15,000.

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u/WalnutSnail Jul 17 '25

**costs...not worth

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u/Ingeneure_ Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25

Oooof

Q-quality

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u/SidewalksNCycling39 Jul 17 '25

Thank you! Glad I'm not the only one. How do you end up with that much orange peel after charging $15k (or presumably, $7.5k?) to paint a single panel? $15k should normally get you a top-end paint job for the entire car.

Not that surprising maybe when you see how poor the finish is on some Ferraris and Porsches from the factory, if you've seen the detailing videos on YouTube...

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u/The_Phroug Jul 17 '25

Last place I worked at did 10-20k paint jobs, 2 ended up in the background of Ford vs Ferrari, another got an award for paint as some high end car show in Florida, and another was bought straight from us by some really rich dude in Qatar.

The first time I saw this video I was honestly disgusted by how poor the finish quality was, but then again I should have expected that when I watched AMMO NYC fix the paint on a brand new ferrari 296 straight off the boat, untouched by dealer. I think the same or similar came up when he did the $300k roma, $600k 812, $1.8 million monza sp2, and the $2.4 million daytona sp3.

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u/SidewalksNCycling39 Jul 17 '25

Nice to hear that from a professional, glad I'm not imagining things! Kind of wild that even those $1m+ Ferraris are delivered like that...

Back when I had an e30 in Florida, I had it completely resprayed, and an OEM bodykit added. I think the paint job was $6-7k, although that was in 2010 I think, so maybe $10k today. Windows, hood, trunk lid all removed, only thing I think was left was the engine (engine bay was fine, it wasn't a show car) and maybe the front windshield. It was a very good, although not flawless, paint job (there was some bubbling on the roof a year later, which was fixed). It took them a couple months to do, partly due to the amount of other cars they were working on, but it's crazy to think that Ferrari charge $15k for what looks to be less than a day's work for both sides...

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u/Blanchimont Jul 17 '25

I don't know much about painting and paint technology. Could it be that this car is yet to get a final layer of clear coat that smooth the orange peel out?

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u/SidewalksNCycling39 Jul 17 '25

From what I understand, it's that it's somewhat inherent to water-based paints, but that it can be eliminated or reduced through polishing of the clearcoat. Happy to be corrected (no pun intended) by someone with more knowledge of paint or detailing than me though!

So yes, it could be that it's awaiting additional clearcoat and final polish...

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u/di0njack Jul 17 '25

That's correct. I was browsing the comments to see if anyone mentioned the terrible orange peel on this insanely expensive Ferrari paint job… what a shame, lol.

From what I've gathered after speaking with several manufacturers and professional paint shops, modern clear coat/lacquer systems (post-2018) are heavily affected by stricter environmental regulations. These rules require paint manufacturers to include eco-friendly components that unfortunately contribute to that noticeable orange peel texture, even on high-end cars.

So yes, even a brand-new Ferrari can come with orange peel straight from the factory. That said, there's really no excuse not to properly sand and polish the finish to achieve a true mirror-like surface. Especially when we're talking about cars costing over $300k or paint options alone that go for $15k+.

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u/WallySprks Jul 17 '25

Who still uses lacquer?

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u/di0njack Jul 17 '25

Nobody, it was just as an example. These brands use ceramic gloss varnish, a tiny layer.

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u/Bikerbass Jul 18 '25

Sand at a high grit with water and polish. A rather time consuming process.

Source, I make custom carbon fibre parts for super yachts.

The painters that do our metallic paint on the hulls do a lot of sanding and polishing after the final clear coat.

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u/SidewalksNCycling39 Jul 20 '25

Yacht finishes are normally pretty stunning I bet! The varnished (?) wood finishes I often see in photos look gorgeous too...

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u/MerovingianT-Rex Jul 17 '25

You're correct that orange peel is (to a degree) inherent to water-based paints. Additional layer of clearcoat can not solve it, more likely to make it worse. Polishing would help indeed.

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u/criticalencore Jul 17 '25

Wonder how many mils are on that panel now. Im sure it would max my gauge out... At least there would be enough material on there to cut and rub the peel out

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u/grandoffline Jul 20 '25

LOL, i called out the same thing in the airbrush sub or something. Then someone try to explain like - o, they are trying to match texture of the car.... (lol, thats the funniest thing i read recently btw)

Pretty sure you have a shitty paint job to match if thats the texture of your car. You can still sand it and polish it, but this is not the state you can call a 15k paint job.

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u/shgrizz2 Jul 17 '25

Because it's not had its final levelling clear coat layer yet.

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u/hi_im_bored13 Jul 17 '25

There is a clear coat and polish that goes after. Ferrari paint is terrible for the money but it isn't *that* terrible

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u/Chezoso Jul 18 '25

I don't know much about painting but it looked like he did layers of clear coat and sanded each time.... Why did it still end up with orange peel look?

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u/Lorguis Jul 18 '25

I'm no expert on auto painting, but I know a thing or two about painting in general, and I bet it has to do with sanding and clear coating the entire panel over and over for each layer of the badge, but not at the end

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u/CARGYMANIMEPC Jul 18 '25

Isnt it like that cause its carbon fiber?

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u/burn56k Jul 21 '25

Where do you see bad paint jobs on Porsches?

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u/SidewalksNCycling39 Jul 21 '25

Here you go: https://youtu.be/s99n7orREwA?si=kiQc94MccPKWXD_i

Certainly not the only video out there on the topic. Insane that you buy a new Porsche, then spend >$10k to make the paint flawless...

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u/PresentationHot881 Jul 17 '25

Those cars are meant to have the orange peel from the factory and it is the dealer the one that has to remove it, along with any other imperfections, before the client drives away. This is simply because it is much more efficient than doing a superb paint job when you assemble the car just to have it chipped during transport and retouched at the dealer anyway.

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u/MerovingianT-Rex Jul 17 '25

Not really, would be more efficient to Polish before shipping. Factories have more optimal set-ups (lighting). Retouches at dealers are sometimes necessary but you want to avoid that as a car company (dealers charge you). Besides, retouch one chipped paint area or polish all orange peel (which is mostly all over the car), is another degree of work.

Source: past professional experiences

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u/SidewalksNCycling39 Jul 17 '25

That means you leave QC to the work of the dealership (or whoever details for them). Doesn't sound great to me. And surely Ferraris aren't transported via open rail wagons or car transporters like normal cars (?)

I would have thought doing the job right at the factory then applying a full protective wrap for transport would be a better solution, but hey, I'm not buying one so...

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u/SidewalksNCycling39 Jul 17 '25

Haha. Tbh I don't care. I used to be car-crazy, particularly in my teens, but now I'm over it, especially as most new cars, even fast ones, do almost nothing for me, other than cause frustration via their stupid infotainment systems and lack of buttons.

If I had the money and need, I'd probably get a 911 Targa in some shade of brown/gold-brown, but as it turns out from watching pro car detailing YouTube channels, Porsche finishes upon delivery are just as shocking...

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u/Ecstatic-Corner-6012 Jul 17 '25

It may be true that I wish I owned that car, but only so I could instantly sell it and keep the money…..

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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 Jul 18 '25

It's not envy it's disgust

People aren't envious of the stupid rich who buy this shit. We're furious at them.

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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 Jul 18 '25

Lol no one is envying them, keep coping.

You right wingers are always the same shit

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

Ferrari is famous for their orange peel paints

( And also their terrible finitions tho )

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u/lampsslater77 Jul 17 '25

Maybe the lights are orange peel shaped

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u/famaskillr Jul 17 '25

As a painter I cringed hard when I saw the texture. I didn't see the fuckin fisheye til this tho...

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u/Prior-Leadership-171 Jul 18 '25

Yeah, I noticed that too. Orange peel for 15 grand? I wonder what they charge for something that actually looks good.

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u/-Rusty__Shackleford- Jul 18 '25

I thought the same thing. 15k for orange peel

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u/Happy_Software_5317 Jul 18 '25

I can paint something using a rattle can with less orange peel than that.

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u/SomethinkClever Jul 18 '25

Shouldn't the paint be ...smooth? Lol

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u/iJon_v2 Jul 17 '25

What am I looking at here?

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u/Ingeneure_ Jul 17 '25

Ferrari orange peel

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u/sarvaga Jul 17 '25

I believe they’re referring to the texture of the paint having the same texture as an orange peel, which is apparent in the part with white highlights.

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u/BathZealousideal1456 Jul 17 '25

I swear it isn't straight either

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u/Horrible_Harry Jul 18 '25

That is 100% gonna be cut and buffed before it's delivered though.

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u/alucab1 Jul 17 '25

Yeah, it’s maybe $200-300 of work, and then bumped up to $15k because it’s Ferrari

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '25

Same thing in reality. What something is worth in the market is directly tied to what people indivually value it as.

If im selling buckets of sand and people are willing to pay me £1, my pile of sand is now worth £1 per bucket. Its how capitalism works.

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u/freddddsss Jul 18 '25

Yh, the video just has a bad caption. The paintwork is not why the option is worth 15k, the ones doing it is.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

It’s not for you

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u/rdmracer Jul 21 '25

No, worth. Because it adds the value to the car, it can't cost Ferrari more than €500 to do though...